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Initial post 6 AUG 17 by Darrell
This photo is not from the 1922 American Rose Annual. I own the book. It is not listed in the contents of plates. Nor could I find it when I went through the book page by page. Nor is it in the 1921 or 1923 annual. Perhaps it's from The Rose Annual of England?
Reply #1 of 5 posted 7 AUG 17 by Margaret Furness
It's not in the list of illustrations in the 1922 Rose Annual.
Reply #2 of 5 posted 7 AUG 17 by Patricia Routley
It might be R. hugonis from the 1916 American Rose Annual p32?

The photo was used in McFarland's 1937 Roses of the World in Colour p176 and labelled there Rosa multibracteata.
Reply #3 of 5 posted 7 AUG 17 by Rupert, Kim L.
Thanks, Darrell, Margaret and Patricia. I scanned the image some time ago and don't have access to my books as they are packed in the garage where I can't get to them. I don't have the 1916 ARS annual but do have the McFarland book. I posted a number of scanned images in an evening and probably mis labeled this one while labeling the bunch.
Reply #4 of 5 posted today by CybeRose
1920 ARA.
Reply #5 of 5 posted today by Rupert, Kim L.
Thank you, Karl.
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Initial post 5 days ago by CybeRose
According to the 1912-1913 catalog, "Rito, rich pink with yellow anthers."
Reply #1 of 1 posted 5 days ago by Patricia Routley
Description added, Karl.
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Initial post 7 days ago by jedmar
Great finds!
Reply #1 of 1 posted 6 days ago by CybeRose
Sometimes I just get lucky.
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Initial post 8 MAY by CybeRose
The following account makes it apparent that Kordesii resulted from an unreduced ovum and visited by pollen from some other variety - presumably a double red rebloomer. G12, on the other hand, is closer to being a tetraploid 'Max Graf'.

Euphytica 26(3): 703-708 (1977)
Breeding for improvement of flowering attributes of winterhardy Rosa kordesii Wulff hybrids
Felicitas Svejda

G12 was obtained from open pollination of 'Max Graf' and a cytological examination by Dr D. R. Sampson, of this Station, found it to be tetraploid (2n = 4x = 28). G12 differs from R. kordesii in that it is very hardy at Ottawa where it shows little or no winterkill. It flowers non-recurrently and produces fewer flowers. It has single, pink flowers like 'Max Graf'. R. kordesii is regularly killed to the snow-line at Ottawa, it flowers recurrently and is more floriferous than G12. Unlike 'Max Graf, R. kordesii has double flowers.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 3 SEP by Michael Garhart
That was my guess as well, but I don't think its from one of the damask red (Crimson Glory, etc) lines of early floribundas, or the Robin Hood types, either. I am guessing it is something more like 'Erich Frahm', at least in foliage traits, disease proneness (or lack of), spray architecture, and so on.

Kordesii is a pretty unusual combination. I have a feeling Kordes knew the other parent. He seemed keen on crossing them to both the red /red-orange floris, as well as Pernet-descended HT and Brownell types. But that could just be coincidence of the era, too.
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