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Discussion id : 107-061
most recent 19 DEC HIDE POSTS
Initial post 19 DEC by CybeRose
An essay on the geographical distribution of plant. 2nd Ed. 1825
Nathaniel John Winch
Calyx permanent. Fruit egg-shaped, smooth. Leaf lets ovate, doubly serrated, glaucus. Prickles hooked. Calyx deciduous.
R. sarmentacea. Woods, in Linn. Trans, v. xii, p. 213. Swartz. MSS.
Rosa glaucophylla. Geog. of Plants, first ed. p. 45. With. ed. 6, v. in, p. 619.

This is a much slenderer, though less trailing Briar than Rosa canina; its flowers pale pink, growing in pairs or single, and its fruit large. It also further differs in habit, by not having young shoots sprouting beyond the blossoms, so as to give them the appearance of being axillary; and from Rosa sentriosa of Acharius (Stockholm Transactions) in the fruit being ovate, not globular. The leaves of the shrub are glaucus—peculiarly so in the spring of the year; and with reluctance I relinquish the name given to it in the first edition of this pamphlet, for the less appropriate one of my late friend, Dr. Swartz.

Every hedge near Newcastle, both in Northumberland and Durham.
Discussion id : 60-065
most recent 5 DEC 16 SHOW ALL
Initial post 17 DEC 11 by Tomartyr
With the help of birds and suckering, Rosa canina has naturalised in some of the more arid parts of southern New Zealand, and it covers some quite large tracts of marginal land. Up until perhaps thirty years ago, a local manufacturing company sought to buy the ripe hips of this rose from the public, for the purpose of making a syrup rich in vitamin C that was popular for bottle-feeding to babies. As a child in the 1950s I earned pocket money by picking the hips and sending them off to the city for this purpose.
Reply #1 of 8 posted 17 DEC 11 by Tessie
What a fascinating story. Thanks for sharing.

A beautiful rose with healthful benefits. I wonder what that syrup tasted like? I've been trying the hips on some of my roses. My favorite so far is R. spinosissima, but I have a form of dog rose, R. uncinella, and I'm looking forward to sampling the hips next year. Perhaps even experimenting with making rose hip tea.

Reply #2 of 8 posted 17 DEC 11 by Tomartyr
Sorry I can't help with a description of the flavour, Melissa. I'm sure I have tasted it, but my recall doesn't go back as far as bottle-feeding days!
Reply #3 of 8 posted 17 DEC 11 by Jay-Jay
The syrup is still commercially sold in The Netherlands under the name Roosvicee.
Reply #7 of 8 posted 4 DEC 16 by Andrew from Dolton
My mother wrecked my infant teeth with rose hip syrup and black currant syrup which in the late 1960's and early 1970's were recommended for newborns as health foods.
Reply #4 of 8 posted 18 DEC 11 by Patricia Routley
Dear Tomartyr,

I have a feeling that it is not R. canina (Dog Rose) that has naturalised in the south island, but R. eglanteria (sweet Briar) that has gone feral. I don't really know how to tell the difference between the two, apart from the distinctive apple perfume from the leaves of R. eglanteria when the air is moist.
Reply #5 of 8 posted 18 DEC 11 by Tomartyr
Having had a quick tour of the internet via Google, I think you may well be right, Patricia. There does seem to be a great deal of confusion between the two, though. When googling for images of R. canina, I found a photo of the thorns, which were quite different from the thorns on R. eglanteria (or R. rubiginosa 'Eglantera' as it seems may be be more correct). Also, I note on HMF that an alternative name for R. eglantera is 'Te Mihanere', which is unmistakably a Maori language name, suggesting the species has been endemic in New Zealand for a long time. Also, I have often heard our NZ plant referred to as 'sweet briar'. On the other hand, I've never noticed an apple fragrance, even though I grew up with these plants around. On balance, I think it is most likely R. eglanteria.
Reply #6 of 8 posted 18 DEC 11 by HMF Admin
Yes, how interesting. We second the thanks for sharing with the HMF community
Reply #8 of 8 posted 5 DEC 16 by Margaret Furness
Say Te Mihanere with extra letters... The missionary. They brought it with them. Epidemic, not endemic...
Discussion id : 96-028
most recent 24 NOV 16 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 23 NOV 16 by Byrnes, Robert L.
Would the following link from the University of Vermont be acceptable to change the hardiness zone from 6 to 3? Thank you.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 23 NOV 16 by Patricia Routley
I really don't know. I think there are different forms of canina. However, I have added the reference and changed the zone from 6b to 3b and hope that is OK.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 24 NOV 16 by Byrnes, Robert L.
Thank you Patricia. I think the reference is regarding R. canina directly. Is there more than one form of R. canina?
Discussion id : 91-329
most recent 6 MAR 16 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 6 MAR 16 by true-blue
R. canina (itburni, kelik; Javānšir, p. 155), dog rose; an erect (1-4 m high) or repent shrub with pink or white flowers, each 35-45 mm in diameter, solitary or corymbose, widely distributed in Persia; habitat: Azerbaijan, Gilān, Māzandarān, Gorgān, Semnān, Khorasan, Kurdistan, Lorestān, Kohgiluya and Boir Aḥmad, Hamadān, Isfahan, Tehran, Fārs (Ḵātamsāz, pp. 63, 65); also reported from Ṭāleš (Lankarān), Iraqi Kurdistan, Afghanistan, Turkmenistan (Zieliński, pp. 22-24).
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