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'TANellis' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 159-958
most recent 13 JAN HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 13 JAN by MiGreenThumb
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I've signed out and back in several times, and it's still not working. I'd like a resolution.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 13 JAN by HMF Admin
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Discussion id : 153-641
most recent 24 OCT HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 24 OCT by ParisRoseLady
Available from - High Country Roses
www.highcountryroses.com
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Discussion id : 140-932
most recent 13 OCT SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 11 MAY by Domenico 67
Just bought a new plant of this rose, after years without it. It's on own roots, and it looks quite good
It was delivered by courier shipping (together with other plants), already in bud, and when I opened the pack, I found 2 large buds which where broken. One of them was already opening though, and I collected it to put it in a
vase.
What can I say? I almost forgot how beautiful and how fragrant this rose is. The form is beautiful, the colour is a very vivid coral (difficult to reproduce in photo), which is so rare in an intensely fragrant rose, and the fragrance itself is really astonishing, I was able to detect it even before opening the pack. It's very rich and deep, a little bit spicy and with just a slight touch of tea, but above all, very intensely rosy. Something in between centifolia, Louise Odier and Tiffany, with the deepness of Papa Meilland. After smelling it, one of my absolute preferred fragrant roses, Rose de Resht, was quite difficult to smell... Fragrant Cloud saturates your nose!
I seriously think it should be grown for the extraction of fragrance. It actually smells a little bit like the best rose soap possible.
After two days in a minuscule cup, the detached flower has still retained a good colour, a coral which is just a little bit less bright than before. The scent is still strong, with a little bit more of tea and a little bit less of rose, but still very good and intense. This buds are literally packed with essential oil LOL! That's why it should be extracted!
Looking forward for next flowers from her, the first should open in a couple days!


Update: I just bought another plant of Fragrant Cloud (in Italy it's often sold as Nuage Parfumé), at a local grower. It's a grafted plant by NIRP, quite big and robust, likely two years old, in full bloom.
When I saw it, casually mixed with much more recent varieties (mostly introduced by Kordes, Poulsen and Meilland), the colour and the flower formation (very similar to Peace to my eyes) made me immediately suspect it was this much older beauty, but I was in doubt because I'd never saw one plant of this cultivar at a local grower before. The perfume was a little bit faded because of the afternoon heat, but the tag confirmed that my guess was correct... I just HAD to buy it.
As soon as I took it out of the place and some fresh air mitigated the heat, the scent exploded back, and it was really awesome.
I realized that it smells almost exactly like a pretty expensively eau de parfum used by a former girlfriend of mine, "Paris" by YSL.

Update: my own roots Fragrant Cloud plant is giving some new flowers now. They're still not as full potential for dimension and petal number (I think it'll need another year of growth), but on own roots it looks like cookie is even more vivid, I'd say more of a full, fluorescent geranium red rather than just coral red in the first and second day (I had to correct the colour a lot on this photo, because it burns the camera sensor of my phone even in the shade of early morning), and perfume is shockingly strong in the best moments (less so in hottest hours), it numbs the olfactory receptors and makes other very fragrant roses almost scentless in comparison.

Update: both grafted and own roots plants of F.C. are giving new blooms like crazy. Luckily, it looks like the nurseries from where these plants come, have good virus-free reproduction material.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 13 OCT by HubertG
Thanks for this review, Domenico 67. I read it when you posted it and kept it in the back of my mind. Today I was at the nursery and saw a potted 'Fragrant Cloud' and, remembering your review, I bought it. It is a bushy grafted specimen 40cm high with 11 buds on it. Looking forward to the fragrance and performance.
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Discussion id : 128-722
most recent 9 AUG 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 8 AUG 21 by Nicolarose
On Helpmefind the Duftwolke rose was bred in 1956, but one of the parents "prima ballerina" rose was bred in 1957. How is it possibile? What's wrong?
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 8 AUG 21 by jedmar
Good point. You will see that 'Duftwolke' was bred 1956, but introduced 1963. Most sources give 1963/64 as the year of introduction. A period of 7 years between breeding and actual introduction is not unusual for commercial roses: It takes a couple of years to find out if the rose is worthwhile, then 1-2 years to propagate enough plants for the introduction. In the case of 'Prima Ballerina' we only have the year of introduction as 1957, even though it says "Bred 1957". I imagine this rose was actually bred around 1950, but we have no sources which would corroborate that.
What is somewhat surprising is the pollen parent 'Montezuma', which was introduced 1955. This is actually too short a time before 1956 for it to have been the parent of 'Duftwolke'. As 'Montezuma' participated at the Geneva trials in 1955, it must have been around already in 1953. It seems that Tantau got hold of the plant at an even earlier date. Maybe took some pollen at one of Swim's trial beds?
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 9 AUG 21 by Nicolarose
Thank you for your answer. So... Is it impossible to know the year of breding of Prima ballerina and Montezuma?
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 9 AUG 21 by jedmar
It was not published. The breeders have their records of course, but they are usually very reticent in divulging information.
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