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'Constance Spry' rose Reviews & Comments
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25 FEB 04 by
Anonymous-1486
I have a Constance Spry which has never bloomed. It is over two years old. Does this have to mature beflore flowering or am I doing something wrong? It is growing very nicely over my fence and has lots of leaves but I am getting impatient. I want flowers!
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#1 of 2 posted
25 FEB 04 by
Unregistered Guest
Constance Spry only blooms once a year which means it blooms on old wood instead of new wood. Do not prune the plant till after it flowers... even then, if you don't know how to prune a climber you risk loosing some of next year's blooms. On top of that, it's a climber; climbers usually spend the first several years building biomass instead of blooming. Give the plant more time. It's an added benefit to train the canes horizontally to encourage more blooms, otherwise, if allowed to shoot upwards, you will only get blooms on the very tips of the canes instead of the whole length of it. If after five years it still doesn't bloom, shovel prune it... either it doesn't like your climate or you're better off growing something less finicky. By the way, DO NOT prune it like a regular Hybrid Tea, i.e. cutting all the canes down to one foot every autumn, that is a sure recipe for failure.
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Just heard Dan Bifano speak and he said if a rose isn't blooming, try cutting it down to about six-eight inches in January and see what the new growth produces. If if doesn't improve, shovel prune and replace. He said he doesn't spray for any diseases and he only plants disease free roses. He's replaced quite a few of his favorites from the past with newer disease free roses that resemble the old but diseased favorite. His gardens are organic.
On that note, please be aware the dogs are enticed by organic fertilizers and will roll in the fertilizer as well as eat it. Our dog did both and we had a large vet bill for x-rays and monitoring. Had to use mineral oil with each meal and she finally passed it. Vet said dogs are not interested in non-organic fertilizers made of chemicals. BTW, dogs love to eat the cocoa mulch so beware.
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Syn.'Ausfirst', 'Austance' Rosa Inglese a cespuglio/rampicante, Gruppo Rosa Antica Ibrida, a portamento vigoroso. Fogliame verde scuro. Fiori grandi, rosa intenso, sbiaditi a pallido, forma old-fashioned, singoli o in mazzi. Fragranza intensa, di mirra. Non rifiorente. Md/resistente malattie. H.180/400cm L.180cm. Premiata con RHS/RNRS Award of Garden Merit. (ROSACEAE) (David C.H.Austin, David Austin Roses Ltd., UK, 1961)
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How can Bibi Maizoon or Bibi Mezoon be in the second, third and fifth generation of this rose? that has to be a mistake.... Oh no, I understand now: This rose is a result of in- or linebreeding. I had to look better!
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4 JUN 08 by
Unregistered Guest
I see that helpmefind.com has put this rose's ploidy as a diploid. I would like to know where they got that info... it seems way too fertile to be a diploid.
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Check the REFERENCES tab on the rose page and you will find our source of information.
Smiles, Lyn
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#4 of 4 posted
7 JUN 08 by
Unregistered Guest
Thank you... I found it, and now we're talking about it at rose hybridizers. We think there has to be something wrong, and somebody may actually test out the ploidy of some of these roses (especially R. kordesii, which is listed as a diploid and not a tetraploid.) thank you very much... Enrique
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6 JUN 08 by
Cass
Hi, anon. I'm traveling and don't have access to my ploidy spreadsheet to confirm the references reporting Constance Spry as diploid. I know that in the case of Constance Spry, one source of the ploidy information was a poster on the Rose Hybridizer's Forum. If the information is time critical, I suggest you post an inquiry there, as someone may be able to confirm the datum.
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I have noted that 'Belle Amour' has that same aniseed fragrance. I don't know its ploidy.
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