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Discussion id : 81-482
most recent 6 NOV 14 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 6 NOV 14 by CybeRose
The Gardeners’ Chronicle 2: 238 (April 9, 1842)
Foreign Correspondence
Paris, 30th March, 1842.—That fine new English Rose, Devoniensis, was received here last autumn, and may perhaps be in the hands of four or five persons, but I feel confident that they will increase it with such rapidity as to be able to offer it to the trade in England at a much lower price than it can be purchased there.
Discussion id : 76-085
most recent 16 JAN 14 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 16 JAN 14 by CybeRose
Gardeners' Chronicle p. 343 (May 29, 1841)
New Rose.—We have lately received from Messrs. Lucombe, Pince, and Co., of Exeter, specimens of a new Rose, by them called "Rosa Devoniensis." They state that it is far from being as fine as they shortly expect it to be, the flower having been cut from a small young plant. They are of opinion that it possesses properties which entitle it to be considered one of the finest Roses which has ever been introduced. The flowers which we received were finely formed, very double, much above the average size; and it is evident that the plant has a vigorous and excellent habit. We also found it deliciously fragrant; the colour is a clear, delicate, primrose yellow, with a somewhat deeper centre. The flowers, though large and double, had expanded freely, without any imperfection or hard green eye.
Discussion id : 75-622
most recent 23 DEC 13 SHOW ALL
Initial post 19 DEC 13 by Charles Quest-Ritson
I think the description for 'Devoniensis' has been copied verbatim from the one for 'Climbing Devoniensis'. In my experience, the bush form grows to about 80cm high and 60cm wide. The climbing form also has slightly larger flowers.
Reply #1 of 6 posted 19 DEC 13 by Patricia Routley
Yes. My bushes are about that height too. Fixed. Thank you Charles.
Reply #2 of 6 posted 19 DEC 13 by Margaret Furness
You would have seen the plant at Carlsruhe churchyard, Patricia? See Billy's comment. Given plenty of time, in a climate warmer than where it was bred, it can get big.
Reply #3 of 6 posted 19 DEC 13 by Patricia Routley
Sorry, I can't remember the height.
I, and probably Charles too, are gardening in cooler climates. What would you say is the approx max height and width. The Tea book says "low growing" and "medium height".
Reply #4 of 6 posted 20 DEC 13 by Ozoldroser
I have added a couple of photos of the two 'Devoniensis' plants growing at Carlsruhe Cemetery in the Mid North of South Australia. These photos were taken a few years ago. When I first saw these plants they were way over my head (I am just a smidge less than 5ft) but these photos show the bushes after they were severely pruned one year. It is definitely 'Devoniensis' the bush as it has never thrown climbing canes.The two graves have burials in 1888 and 1893 only.
Reply #5 of 6 posted 20 DEC 13 by Patricia Routley
Thank you Pat. They are superb photos. I know Leo was a fairly tall man so I have increased the maximum height and width to 2m x 2m. If my bushes ever got anything near as healthy as the Carlesruhe bush, I'll have to dispense with the path. Leaning out over the path, that spray of white behind the orange on the left, is one of my two bushes. (I planted another one right alongside to a named 'Devoniensis' so I could confirm the identity).
Reply #6 of 6 posted 23 DEC 13 by billy teabag
Apologies for the delay in responding. In my experience the shrub form of 'Devoniensis' is one of the slower growing Teas but given time, it will become quite large in warmer climates. The 20 year-old plant in our garden was a modest, sparse plant for about 10 years and then began growing more strongly. It is now about 2 metres tall and this is a pattern reported by others who grow it here. (The climbing form doesn't seem to have the same long childhood - it grew prodigiously from the start.)
Very old plants of the shrub form of 'Devoniensis' seen in this country have been 1½ - 2 metres tall, depending on the harshness of the conditions and the severity of pruning. The big old 'Devoniensis' plants at Carlesruhe cemetery were clipped back quite hard when we last visited, and were dense mounds of about 2 metres.
Discussion id : 60-612
most recent 5 JAN 12 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 5 JAN 12 by CybeRose
Gardeners Chronicle, March 30, 1895
ORIGIN OF TEA R0SE DEVONIENSIS—For the information of "Wild Rose" anent the origin of the Tea Rose Devoniensis, it may be stated that this variety was raised in 1838, and sent out about the year 1840 (as well as I can recollect) by Messrs. Lucombe & Pince of Exeter, who purchased the stock from the raiser of the variety, a Mr. Foster of Stoke, Devonport, a retired official of the Plymouth Gas Company, after it had been refused at the price of £20 by Mr. Wm. Kendle, senior, of Plymouth. The parent of the Devoniensis was Smith's Yellow Noisette. H. M.
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