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'Rosa X noisettiana Thory' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 88-516
most recent 8 JUN 16 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 5 OCT 15 by Give me caffeine
By the way, although the HMF description notes this rose as being armed with thorns, Thomas for Roses says that their Blush Noisette is thornless.
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 6 OCT 15 by Patricia Routley
My presumed 'Blush Noisette' (taken as a cutting from Blechynden House, Bridgetown in 1998) certainly has thorns - on the smooth wood. The canes are variable in the number of thorns they carry, but I would describe them as "sparse".
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 6 OCT 15 by Give me caffeine
I was going to try one of T4R's anyway. I'll report back on the number of fangs once I have a good idea.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 8 JUN 16 by Give me caffeine
Have just received a bare root plant from T4R and no, it aint thornless.

This is obviously a very young plant with limited growth, and things may change a bit down the track, but at the moment the thorns are quite small, generally not hooked (or only slightly) but fairly numerous. On average there would be roughly one every inch or 25mm or so, sometimes grouped around the cane and sometimes not.

Overall it's not a terrifying thing, but definitely not thornless. However, it should make nice flowers so I'm not going to grumble.

Edit: Have added a couple of photos to show the details.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 6 OCT 15 by jedmar
The 1826 description of 'Blush Noisette' states "stromg, sparse, hooked prickles"
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Discussion id : 67-935
most recent 1 NOV 12 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 1 NOV 12 by mtspace
I think it is a little more cold hardy than Celine Forrestier because Blush Noisette has endured two winters here without harm while CF failed in its first winter. It is evergreen in zone 7b and this helps it establish in dry soil.

I have a few reservations about it which stem at least partly from my incorrect expectations. I find it to be an awkward plant. In my garden it grew to five feet, stopped, and branched widely which was inconvenient because I was expecting a narrow climber. It creates great clusters of flowers, but its blossoms tend to dry out quickly in our low humidity climate. Nor do I find them especially pretty in color or in form. I find the fragrance sweet and simple, but not rich or satisfying.

I find it to be a good rose in a technical sense; but it has consistently failed to please. I'm going to have to move the two I planted, and I haven't thought of a new spot where I would be completely happy to see them grow.
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Discussion id : 53-364
most recent 9 APR 11 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 9 APR 11 by BarbaraG SE Virginia
Blush Noisette is small for us compared to the noisettes, esp. the tea-noisettes. This is a plus in a small garden. However both my plants are in part shade (6 hours of sun or less) and altho Blush Noisette is still healthy in this situation I have seen a much better floral display in full sun.
This is a great shrub rose.. but NOT shade tolerant in either of of my gardens.
If anyone out there is successfully growing it as a climber, let us hear from you!
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Discussion id : 29-907
most recent 21 AUG 08 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 21 AUG 08 by bob diller
I added this rose last year and its just wonderful. The cycle of repeat bloom is about every 4-6 weeks, and the blooms come in big clusters that have the sweetest fragrance. The smell is not really old rose or musky, it is just sweet. I had not really read much about this rose before purchasing it and mistakenly planted it where I wanted a climber to pair with the shrub rose Rosy Cushion, so now I have two shrubby roses side by side and no climber, but both are so excellent in the disease resistance and heavy bloom and repeat bloom department that I'm not unhappy at all with the combination. I may add a Celine Forestier and make a trio of it as I would still like a climber on that end section of wooden post rail fence. If you have a small spot and want a very reliable disease resistant cluster flowered rose with great fragrance I would try this one over most of the polyanthas or floribundas.
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