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'Madame Isaac Pereire' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 74-655
most recent 19 OCT 13 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 19 OCT 13 by Jukka K
Madame is quite hardy in southern Finland, her health is good and growth vigorous. Should be more widely available.
Discussion id : 67-322
most recent 8 OCT 12 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 6 OCT 12 by Rosechampion
The rose i am growing is currently coming to the end of its first flowering season. I decided to share my views on this rose for anybody that decides to grow this in the future.

Overall this is a very beautiful and eye catching rose. There must be at least 100 petals packed into each bloom. This however can cause problems. When the weather is wet, the multitude of petals become stuck together and the flower fails to open properly, turning brown and rotting. Opinions may differ about the fsct that the blooms are so heavy for the plant that they hang down heavily and make it difficult to view them. In some cases this is charming but in this case i find it a little annoying.

The strongest smelling rose that i have ever smelt. Just one bloom from out in the garden could be smelt inside with the window open.

HEALTH: 5/10
Overall the health of the plant is not too bad really. The leaves at the bottom of the plant have become a bit of a martyr to blackspot and i have removed these as they look unsightly. Also one of the stems died completely and has never recovered.

Overall: 22/30
Reply #1 of 8 posted 6 OCT 12 by Jay-Jay
Nodding flowers, You describe... But as far as I can see, that isn't bad at all when it matures into it's climbing form/habit.
Reply #2 of 8 posted 7 OCT 12 by Rosechampion
Your probably right. My plants young and small. You can probably appreciate hanging blooms more on a taller plant.
Reply #3 of 8 posted 7 OCT 12 by Nastarana
Mme Isaac is one rose which might do well in a semi zeriscaped yard.

It's water requirement for me in CA was less than that of many other roses, and it tolerated heat quite well. The beautiful flowers would add interest to the yard, as zeriscaped yards are usually in shades of olive green and grey. Also possibly interesting are the large and plentiful thorns and the growth habit which is neither small nor climbing, but somewhat in between. The growth habit and extermely thorny canes look awkward in a rose bed, but could be rather stricking among the sages and grasses of a xeriscaped yard. BS is almost never seen in desert conditions, and for me, this rose had very little susceptibility to mildew.
Reply #4 of 8 posted 8 OCT 12 by Jay-Jay
What does zeriscaped mean? A word that I'm not familiar/acquinted to.
Sounds good no Blackspot or mildew! But the humid conditions in our climate differ a lot from the arid You have.
Reply #5 of 8 posted 8 OCT 12 by Patricia Routley
I think it might be 'xeriscaped'. My dictionary tells me 'xeric' relating to, or growing in dry conditions.
Reply #6 of 8 posted 8 OCT 12 by Jay-Jay
Thank You Patricia, now I found:
This is a patented name that stands for a landscaping method that is based on low water volume and drought adaptable plants..
Found op
Reply #7 of 8 posted 8 OCT 12 by Jay-Jay
And this:
xeriscape, xeriscaping 1. An environmental design of residential and park land using various methods for minimizing the need for water use. 2. A trademark used for a landscaping method that employs drought-resistant plants in an effort to conserve resources, especially water. A word coined by comb...
Found op
Reply #8 of 8 posted 8 OCT 12 by Rosechampion
Hopefully i will not get so much BS next year. This year has been the wettest for over 100yrs. A real damp squib!
Discussion id : 62-357
most recent 2 MAR 12 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 2 MAR 12 by makida
The spelling of the alternate name of Mme Isaac Pereire is wrongly quoted from Graham Stuart Thomas, he spells it correctly as 'Le Bienheureux de la Salle' in his book and not as ('La Bienheureaux de la Salle'). I happened to see this erroneous spelling recently and believe it may be from HMF.
Discussion id : 61-084
most recent 18 JAN 12 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 18 JAN 12 by goncmg
The one, the only...........have grown it in northern California valley and in Columbus, OH. Plant sprawls and climbs, in Ohio it attracts blackspot by June and drops leaves but the blooms never seem to suffer and the scent is like lemon and raspberries, incredible. Heavy, repeat bloomer especially considering its class and its age...............
Reply #1 of 2 posted 18 JAN 12 by Nastarana
Jack Harkness recommended planting it on a fence facing a neighbor whom one would like to annoy.

I have a fondness for this rose, it is like the late Sarah Caldwell, plain and uncharismatic, but what she produced was little short of miraculous. The bush is ugly even when not diseased, the thorns delight in reaching out to grab you as you wander by--Do you happen to remember I gave you a home when no one else would?--but once you see and smell the blooms, all is forgiven.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 18 JAN 12 by goncmg
I KNOW THAT QUOTE by Harkness!!!!!! Love it! This is one of those that has aged and gone on and on and on..............with maybe the improbability of some reality show winner. The rose is legendary, ugly, beautiful..........I grew 10 from seed 3 years ago..........4 have yet to bloom, 2 bloomed right away but were weak and died (one was RED one was just like the parent), 3 bloomed second year and were all light pink but otherwise the same as Madame and happily in my yard, 1 bloomed second year and was deep ruddy purple and very is not so happy or so strong but is still in my garden...............if Bette Midler were a rose she could be this rose...............nobody knows who Mme Isaac really is!!!!!!!!!!!! Probably something like Bette Midler!
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