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Discussion id : 76-378
most recent 31 JAN 14 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 31 JAN 14 by CybeRose
American Flower-garden Directory (1832)
Hibbert & Buist (Philadelphia, Pa.)
p. 183-184
No. 8. Rosa odorata, or Tea-rose, celebrated in this country for its fragrance being similar to fine Hyson tea. It justly deserves preference of all China roses, for the delicacy of its flavour. The flowers are a cream coloured blush, the petals round and full, forming a very large rose; when full blown, it is pendulous. It will withstand the winter of the middle states with a little protection, such as straw, box, or barrel; requires very rich light soil.

And on en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyson I learned that:

"Hyson tea is referenced in the first stanza of 'Xenophanes' by Ralph Waldo Emerson, 1847: 'By fate, not option, frugal Nature gave One scent to hyson and to wall-flower, One sound to pine-groves and to waterfalls, One aspect to the desert and the lake.'"

So, the famous tea-scent was thought to be similar to the fragrance of the wallflower.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 31 JAN 14 by jedmar
Here is another ereference to Hyson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyson
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Discussion id : 76-341
most recent 29 JAN 14 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 29 JAN 14 by CybeRose
Cottage Gardener 7(163): 97-99 (Nov 19, 1851)
Donald Beaton

I well recollect the time when the first Tea-Scented Rose appeared in this country, it was called Rosa odorata, and was a blush-white Rose; we used to bed it out, after propagating it, in August or September, like the Verbenas, and, like them, we had to keep it from the frost in the winter. The best plant of it I ever saw died last June; it must have been twenty years old, and taken great care of all the time by poor old Mr. Lovett, who was gardener to the late Sir W. Middleton for three-and-thirty years, and to the present baronet until he was pensioned off with a cottage in the park, where he died, at a green old age, a few weeks after his favourite Rosa odorata; it stood in an angle formed by a chimney stack, which projected from the gable of the cottage, having a south aspect, and a narrow-leaved myrtle stood at the opposite angle. I believe neither plant ever had any protection; but except in such favoured situations, I think the Tea Roses in general will do little good in this climate, unless they are taken as much care of in winter as the myrtles; and we shall never see them in perfection in England until cheap Rose-houses are devised for them; the glass to be kept on from October to May, then to let them have the full benefit of our sun and air all the summer.
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Discussion id : 74-601
most recent 16 OCT 13 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 16 OCT 13 by Roseraie "Roses de Normandie"
Bonjour,
Obviously Odoratas have played an important role in the history of the rose. One main reason is there ease to blomm several times during the season. Thus, the rose described here as "once-blomming in spring or summer" cannot be R odorata. Beautiful, looks like, but is not an Odorata.

Fascinated by there history, I have tried to know when odoratas, like odorata fragrans (according to Redouté) was called Hume's blush T-SC ? It is said here that this name was given by the 2 English introducers in England Hume and Colvill. I have not been abble to confirm this point and failed to find its use before Hurst has published his papers on roses. Same remarks for the 3 others so called "studs".
So, I would appreciate very much to know if some friends of Hmf have found the use of these terms between the years 1808 and 1930-40 !
Kindly,
Daniel
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Discussion id : 73-658
most recent 21 AUG 13 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 21 AUG 13 by Unregistered Guest
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