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'New Dawn' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 84-367
most recent 17 APR 15 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 17 APR 15 by Parker
Just registered as a premium member but find I cannot access lineage info. Please help. Thank you
Discussion id : 67-905
most recent 1 NOV 12 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 31 OCT 12 by Niels Plougmann
One of the most planted roses ever - every specimen - every New Dawn Rose - I have grown, my neighbours grow - are covered in RUST - so bad that no amount of spraying is able to control it ...we are all digging our New Dawn roses up (yes 6 neighbours doing the same - we have had enough!)
Reply #1 of 1 posted 1 NOV 12 by jedmar
We have the same problem. Our New Dawn and Amadis are very-rust prone.
Discussion id : 65-697
most recent 10 JUL 12 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 10 JUL 12 by CybeRose
American Rose Annual 32: 14-18 (1947)
J. Horace McFarland

From Mr. Schubert of the Somerset Rose Nursery came this account of the origin of New Dawn:

"Several Dr. W. Van Fleet plants were 'heeled in' after the spring selling season was over. During the late spring, considerable construction work was done about the place and, being overlooked, these plants were trampled on by horses, run over by wagons carting soil, scrapers were drawn over them and they were subjected to a great deal of abuse. After the dust of the battle had cleared away, one shoot made its appearance through the hard trampled soil and produced a bloom. This was followed throughout the summer by other blooms. The plant was watched. The next two seasons it continued this performance, giving more and more blooms as the plant grew larger. During the third season, a few plants were budded to see if the sport was really fixed. The following season these plants all bloomed freely."
Discussion id : 27-977
most recent 15 JAN 11 SHOW ALL
Initial post 4 JUL 08 by kahlenberg
i have been wondering why this rose has become so very popular. i think, it is, because it is susceptible to every parasite and desease in the world and still stands tall - most of the individuals i see are crippled. the flowers are a bit less than ok for half a day and the scent is - well, i think it´s a kind of placebo effect you get while exploring the flowers. there are so many really great wichuraiana-hybrids and i don´t know why they picked the poorest one to spread it all over the world.
Reply #1 of 5 posted 4 JUL 08 by Pascale Hiemann
I can't share your opinion. My ND is totally disease free and I often admired it in other gardens. From afar it looks particulary lovely. Which wichuraiana-hybrids do you mean?
Reply #2 of 5 posted 7 JUL 08 by Unregistered Guest
especially the ones bred by barbier, like "francois juranville"; "paul transon"; "alberic barbier"; rené andré"; "albertine" , but also "paul noel" is fantastic. but i´m glad to hear that it grows satisfying in your corner of the world. where is that, by the way?
Reply #3 of 5 posted 8 JUL 08 by Pascale Hiemann
Yes, they all are wonderful, but unlike "New Dawn" they are once-flowering. "Albéric Barbier" and "Léontine Gervais" are growing in my garden; both have a pronounced susceptibility to diseases (mildew).
I'm living near Hanover in Germany (take a look at my HMF page). Like you I like old garden roses.
Reply #4 of 5 posted 13 JUL 08 by kahlenberg
i can understand this argument, despite my personel opinion which is that once-flowering plants are often the more worshipped ones. anyway, réné andre, paul noel and paul transon produce second (smaller) flushes in autumn.
Reply #5 of 5 posted 15 JAN 11 by buckeyesouth
i concur in the reservations you mention--flowers don't last long, bush is sprawling, and if you blink you will miss the repeat bloom later. I often wonder whether this climber does better in coastal climates and the northeast. Guess I am just not a devotee.
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