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'Princesse Marie' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 95-487
most recent 18 OCT HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 18 OCT by hannes
On the description page it is stated that 'Princesse Marie' in commerce is mislabeled. That's certainly true. The identities of 'Princesse Marie' in the large public rose collections (Sangerhausen etc.) in my opinion are equally dubious.

However, why is 'Belvédère' given here as a synonym? Wouldn't this implicate that someone (correctly) has identified this rose to be the "true" 'Princesse Marie' bred by A. A. Jacques?
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Discussion id : 87-027
most recent 3 AUG 15 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 2 AUG 15 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Description says, "Red"?
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 3 AUG 15 by Patricia Routley
The Princesse is a chameleon. From the references:
1833. rose foncé. (dark pink)
1836 rouge foncé (dark rouge?)
1836 & 1902 tender pink
1838 & 1873, 1936 deep red at first, afterwards flesh
1844 white
1848 clear pink
1858 pale pink
1874 reddish pink
1880 pure pale pink
1899 rouge
1990 pink
1993 medium pink
1998 soft pink
1998 bright

I've added Red buds, opening pink and fading white. Would that be OK?
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 3 AUG 15 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Patrica, I also looked at the references and admit I'm perplexed. It's almost as if there were two roses or differing clones being distributed under this name?

It looks as if only the pale pink one is now represented.

If the buds are red you would have to prove to me. I understand your quandary.

Thanks, Robert
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 3 AUG 15 by Patricia Routley
It was the only explanation for the "red" that I could see, and I was influenced by the 1838 ref - and the fact that many of the sempervirens have dark pink buds.
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Discussion id : 46-000
most recent 19 JUN 10 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 19 JUN 10 by kev
the pictures of this rose show a white-blush pink rose,but certainly not a red one of any shade.It doesnt come close to the descriptions of the original rose.One must assume the pics are from a misnamed rose that should be researched more.
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