Does anyone else remember the Jackson & Perkins catalogues from the 70's??? FLORA-TEAS: huge spread, and only 4 of them----Razzle Dazzle, Evening Star, Viva and THIS one..............basically they are/were all Floribundas, not even GR's, and actually decent roses............Sunfire looks exactly like its parents..........by the time it was introduced the "craze" of orange was over and it never found its niche and to be honest it does simply blend into that "blur" of very thorny "decent" orange-coral roses.................this color now is so RETRO..............but if you are wanting it or wanting retro, you could do a lot worse....................