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Surpasse
in Catalogue d’une très-riche collection de rosiers des plus belles et … 1813 are listed two Surpasse (renoncule and pourpre)
Page 3 Planche 1 n.1 Surpasse renoncule
Page 4 Planche 8 n.67 Surpasse renoncule
Page 4 Planche 11 n. 99 e 125 Surpasse renoncule
Page 6 Planche 16 n.230 Surpasse renoncule
Page 7 Planche 22 n.323 Surpasse pourpre
Page 7 Planche 22 n.325 Surpasse renoncule
Page 7 Planche 23 n.330 Surpasse renoncule
Page 7 Planche 24 n.343 Surpasse pourpre
I let you decide how to file them ...
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And I’ll let someone else decide
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Lately a few rosarians have become fond of stating that other Chinese roses were brought to Europe around the same time as 'Old Blush', 'Slater's Crimson', 'Hume's Blush', and 'Park's Yellow tea-scented China.
I am looking for sources that suggest or reveal that there were more than these Four Studs mentioned by Hurst which initiated the hybridizing of remontant roses. H.C. Andrews of 1805 is one such source, and I've recently located a number of sources re: Park's Yellow and other early yellow chinas.
Does anyone know of other sources that address the earliest pink or red chinas/teas?
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Does the rose 'Ayreshire Queen' perhaps appear at HMF under a different name?
Shepherd, Roy E., History of the Rose, facsimile reproduction of the first edition of 1954, by Earl M. Coleman. 1978 edition, p .22
"AYRESHIRE QUEEN--Dark, purplish crimson, semidouble. Originated by Thomas Rivers, in 1835, by crossing Blush Ayreshire with the Damask Rose, Tuscany. The least vigorous of the group."
I suppose 'Damask Rose. Tuscany' actually refers to the Gallica we now know as 'Tuscany Superb'.
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#1 of 2 posted
13 MAY 16 by
 Jay-Jay
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May be You take a look at: 'Ayrshire Queen' Two hits.
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We've added the History of the Rose reference, (thanks Nastarana) to 'Ayrshire Queen' (and thanks Jay-Jay).
The pollen parent? My guess is Tuscany. We have:
<1820 Tuscany, unknown breeder
1835 Ayrshire Queen, Rivers
<1837 Tuscany Superb, Rivers.
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21 JUL 13 by
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I upload a photo of this rose
Rose Victoria de los Ángeles:
This rose is dedicated to the spanish mezzosoprano (Barcelona, 1 November 1923- 15 january 2005) . A great talent and a wonderful voice. Victoria de los Angeles was a great specialist in all kinds of operas, especially in "Carmen", "Pelléas et Mélisande", "Tannhäuser", and had a great mastery of the German Lied and contributed to the spread of Spanish music and Latin America, working with Pau Casals, Montsalvatge, Villalobos, Mompou, etc.. in many and wonderful concerts.
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