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Discussion id : 113-188
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Initial post 2 days ago by Robert Neil Rippetoe
A lovely tribute. Thank you
Discussion id : 113-184
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Initial post 3 days ago by Singularly Beautiful Roses
Please add to References. From: Bulletin de Societe Nationale d'Acclimation de France, Series 4, Volume 11, 1885, p. 106-107.

"Rosa Microphylla has several varieties: a variety with single flowers, pink, that Phonzo-Zoufou marks under the name of "Kin Ossi." Doctor Savatier found it grown in Tokyo, in the garden of Oya Kouyen. Another variety with double flowers bears the name of "Sansio bara," according to Phonzo-Zoufou.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 2 days ago by Patricia Routley
Single Kin Ossi. Double Sansio bara..... Blindly, without understanding, I have added the reference.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 2 days ago by Singularly Beautiful Roses
I'm writing an extensive article about the microphylla family. There is a lot of contradictory information in print. There is a source from The City of Sakura Rose Garden with an article entitled "Wild Roses of Japan," by Yuki Mikanagi, Ph. D. In it he refers to the rose as R. hirtula (Regel) Nakai referencing a Japanese publication, Bot. Mag. Tokyo 34:14 (1920). I have found a source by Nakai (Japanese botanist) and in it, if I'm reading the Latin correctly, he refers to hirtula as "Sansho-bara." Very confusing.

However, the first source I quoted was written in 1885 and would seem to have precedence. I'd love to be able to correspond with someone from Japan.
Discussion id : 113-175
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Initial post 3 days ago by Alexday
I'm really concerned as to why a rose that is introduced in 2017 has already developed crown gall and is showing severe markings of Mosaic Virus. From my understanding, the growers 'Certified Roses' is the one who bred and introduced this rose. Did they really bud it onto virused stock and distribute their rose to the masses like that? Is it just me, or is that REALLY negligent for a rose introduced in 2017??!!

Maybe they could have tried to keep it own-root and maybe up the price a little to keep it clean? I'm no expert, but there surely are growers out there taking an initiative to only distribute virus free roses, and UCD sells virus free root stocks of all sorts.

I got this rose and potted it in a large tub with a fresh bag of potting soil. So far the blooms are pretty but scarce. I can't really give this rose a fair review because it came to me virused and with crown gall in its roots that developed to the size of a baseball.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 3 days ago by Nastarana
Does CR do any breeding? Or is 'Peach Swirl' perhaps a sport they found in their vast fields?

As for do they bud onto virused stock, they bud onto whatever stock is easily at hand. CR is interested in profit and I suppose their staff have to meet production targets.

'Peach Swirl' will undoubtedly be discarded when the patent runs out in 20 years. CR has done this before, such as with the striped sport of 'Peace' they found and marketed as "New Orleans'.
Discussion id : 112-535
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Initial post 5 AUG by Michael Garhart
"`KORgeriora` is a seedling selection which resulted from the controlled pollination of Rosa hybrida `KORaruli` (U.S. Plant Pat. No. 22,352), the seed parent, and Rosa hybrida `KORfocgri` (U.S. Plant Pat. No. 22,353), the pollen parent, during the summer of 2006. As part of a rose development program, Tim-Hermann Kordes germinated seeds from the aforementioned hybridization during the following winter and conducted evaluations and observations on the resulting seedlings in a controlled environment in Klein Offenseth-Sparrieshoop, Germany. The resulting seedlings exhibited distinctive physical and biological characteristics. The new rose plant was selected as a single plant in May of 2007 from the seedling beds due to its superior characteristics and asexually propagated for further evaluation. This new and distinctive rose variety was given the name `KORgeriora`. " -US PP29,500
Reply #1 of 3 posted 9 AUG by Patricia Routley
Thank you Michael. Patent and parentage added
Reply #2 of 3 posted 2 days ago by Michael Garhart
I wish Kordes had sold this one instead of Firebird. I was so excited to get Firebird, and it was a massive failure. It grew so much, about up to my face, and bloomed a lot. And within one day, the blooms became very gross. I waited to see its summer bloom. Even worse.

Very healthy train wreck. I tried nuking it with Roundup. It grew back lol. Need to dig it out this winter.

I thought it would be like Sunbeam Veranda or Mango Veranda, but no, this was a skyscraper with cream, puke red, and decaying brown petals lol.

Orangerie woulda been a better choice for intro :[ Or anything fun and not a tragic mess....
Reply #3 of 3 posted 2 days ago by Robert Neil Rippetoe
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