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Initial post yesterday by Margaret Furness
I think these two photos should be moved to the "George Whatson" file. If Souvenir d'un Ami was indeed the seed parent of Mlle. Claudine Perreau, that casts doubt on the candidates which don't set hips, "George Whatson" included.
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Reply #1 of 5 posted yesterday by John Hook
The only reference to the possibility that Souv. d'un Ami sets viable seed that I have seen is under Mlle Claudine Perreau refs. this is from Rosenlexicon: Sv. d'un Ami X ?. Personally, I see this an assumed possibility as the colours of the two varieties are similar. No descriptions of Souv d'un Ami that I have come across mention it being used for breeding. If you feel inclined to move or delete these photos please go ahead, I'm sorry that they irritate you
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Reply #2 of 5 posted yesterday by Patricia Routley
John, other members are unable to move your photos. Only you, or an administrator can do that.
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Reply #3 of 5 posted yesterday by HubertG
There are also three distinct seedlings of The Queen/Souvenir de S. A. Prince (Souvenir d'un Ami's white sports) listed.
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Reply #4 of 5 posted yesterday by Margaret Furness
Thank you. It's not an irritant, just a potential source of confusion.
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Reply #5 of 5 posted yesterday by HubertG
There's also this 1867 remark in the references here.

"Souvenir d'un Ami and Adam would produce seed of fine quality, from which large and bright rose-coloured varieties might be expected."
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Initial post yesterday by pminor
Love your lemon zen!!!! Singles have such a simple pure beauty. Checked out your blog. Wondered how your 2017 crosses are doing. Any pics yet. Any you like alot. Thanks for sharing. Very interesting. Hoping to sprout some seedling from my honorine de brabant this year to see if any are interesting. Want to name one for my mom who passed last year at 99. Then give cuttings to the family. Pat
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Reply #1 of 1 posted yesterday by Starnes Jr., John A.
Thanks much!
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Initial post yesterday by Byrnes, Robert L.
The Elko County Rose Garden lists Bella Nitida as hardy to zone 3.

Elko County Rose Garden
Elko, Nevada Zone 5

Bella Nitida Uhl, ----, 1994, Shrub, ---- x ----, --' x --', pink, ---- blooms, -- petals, --" in diameter (large), produced in sprays of --, fragrant, ----, hardy to zone 3, ARS ---. Not tall. (Vanderkruk, 2000)

http://elkorose.schopine.com/ewhrab.html
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Initial post 2 days ago by lbuzzell
Is this the same rose as the peach-buff 'Chiffon' used by florists?
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Reply #1 of 2 posted yesterday by Patricia Routley
I doubt it (but I could be wrong). The 1940 'Chiffon was said to be "blush pink tinted with light lavender" in the only reference I have been able to find.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted yesterday by lbuzzell
Thanks, Patricia. Since I saw a recent talk by Grace Rose Farm of Santa Ynez, California, I've become interested in how different many of the most desired florists' roses look (old fashioned, muddied or muddled colors plus many petals) from commercially available garden roses (even Austins). Grace Rose Farms grows them organically outdoors here in CA so we know they're not all greenhouse- or chemical-dependent. Unfortunately many of these roses don't yet appear on HMF.
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