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Initial post 31 MAY 12 by SteffenAlbrecht
Can anybody help me with identifying these roses?

No. 1 seems to be a species rose which I found growing wild in my garden. I tend to think it's R. arvensis, from its habit (it's creeping all over the ground, although it's also sending up vertical shoots) and from the flower, but then how would I know R. arvensis from R. canina? The flowers seem nearly white, but not completely so.

No. 2 is something I found by the roadside in a Hamburg street, so it will be either a species rose (the city of Hamburg tends to plant R. rugosa and R. pimpinellifolia / spinosissima along roads) or something else simple and hardy. I took cuttings last year and they all rooted and are doing just fine. I first thought it might be R. gallica, but now it does look rather too fancy to me to be that. An advanced search of the HMF database for the characteristics of this rose didn't turn up a lot that looked similar except one rambler rose with similar flowers, but this is most decidedly not a rambler but something rather short in stature.
Edit: It does look a bit like Bingo / Carefree Delight (Meilland 1994), maybe?

Any comments would be most appreciated.
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Reply #1 of 7 posted 1 JUN 12 by jedmar
The colour is a bit like 'Red Carefree Spirit' but the petal shape seems different. I thought 'Bukavu', but I am not convinced of that either.
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Reply #2 of 7 posted 2 JUN 12 by SteffenAlbrecht
Thank you. Bukavu--yes, the flowers are very similar. The leaves are different though, they are pointed, these are are rather rounded and not quite as glossy, maybe also smaller. Also, my rose is rather short in stature, Bukavu seems a large shrub. I guess I might be settling for No. 2 being Bingo.
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Reply #3 of 7 posted 19 OCT 15 by Michael Garhart
Its not Bukavu, which is not hand-painted, and does not have male parts of that color. The rose in the photo is from a hand-painted line.
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Reply #4 of 7 posted 19 OCT 15 by styrax
The species is mosly likely arvensis, the very tight bunch of stigmas are sysntylae (or however it's spelt), canina does not have that.
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Reply #6 of 7 posted 9 APR 17 by SteffenAlbrecht
I missed this comment earlier. Thank you! However, with the help of this guide (https://atrampinthewoods.wordpress.com/tag/rosa-canina/), and considering the photos I have since posted of this rose which definitely show free styles and pink buds, I have definitely identified my rose as r. canina (alba, if you like, for the open flowers are almost perfectly white).
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Reply #5 of 7 posted 20 OCT 15 by Jay-Jay
The second rose, I found too in my town along a bike-road, growing between other bushes.
I propagated it. Called it "Roos Fietspad" as a study-name.
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Reply #7 of 7 posted 9 APR 17 by Andrew from Dolton
The leaves and growth habit are very different to Rosa canina.
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