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Initial post today by Cambridgelad
Is being introduced in the UK as "Honey, Bee Mine".
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Initial post yesterday by HubertG
If I was told this was a 19th century French Tea Rose I wouldn't doubt it, that is, just going by the photos here.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted yesterday by jedmar
The volatile components are closest to Comtesse de Labarthe and Gloire de Dijon.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted today by HubertG
That's interesting. A lot of the other Chinese roses in that fragrance analysis contain geraniol, nerol and citronellol, which this rose lacks. I do think that at least some of the rediscovered Chinese roses are likely to be old European cultivars which simply lost their name and identity over time.
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Initial post today by Michael Garhart
Website seems DOA now. In fact, my browser (Brave) warns me to not try to enter further.

I did try the site's message system when the url worked a few months ago, but there was never a response. The shop browser was also completely vacant at that time.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted today by jedmar
Link removed, thank you!
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Initial post today by Michael Garhart
Possibly a parent of the CA60 rose listed in several studies regarding blackspot resistance at Agricultural and Agri-Food Canada’s (AAFC) Morden Manitoba research station.

CA60 is listed as:

"‘CA60’ (23104FR2) was an experimental rose developed at
the Agricultural and Agri-Food Canada’s (AAFC) Morden Manitoba research station from the
50
cross ‘RSM 104’ × ‘Frontenac’."

The serials for most of these newer hybrids tend to read as batch set (23) seed parent (104) pollen parent (FR) and seedling # of batch set. A ton of hybrids from their codes now read this way.

Anyway, this rose is probably responsible for some of their BS resistance breeding, so important to take note of. CA60 is not listed on HMF. If they gave a photo of CA60, I would go to the effort of asking for it to be listed, but I have no idea of its stats or looks. Based on the seedlings shown, I would imagine its a pink-red and double type.

The fact that Rosa multiflora is mentioned a lot in these studies leads me to believe its possible that 104 is a close, dwarf, repeating descended of selections to parse out black spot resistance since Rosa multiflora is a known source of widely varying resistances.
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