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'Papa Meilland ®' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 110-606
most recent 7 JUN 18 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 9 MAY 18 by Give me caffeine
Just got to sniff one of these for the first time today. Incredible scent. I think I may have to do what Billy does, and grow it together with 'Mister Lincoln' and 'Oklahoma' just for fun. I only have the former at the moment, but have been meaning to get the latter anyway.
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 24 MAY 18 by Just-one-more-rose
Hi, just wondering if you ended up getting the others, and how you find the scents compare to each other? For reds I have Oklahoma, Jubile Papa Meilland and Fragrant Charm (Duftzauber) - they are not in bloom yet (it's spring here) but I do recall the fragrance of Oklahoma from before, and it was divine. I have been thinking of adding the original Papa Meilland, and / or Mister Lincoln, but haven't decided yet. Any comments on fragrance would be appreciated (Fragrance plays a big part in my decision-making :-) I've got very limited space, 10 (x 10 gallon / 45 litres) containers fit on my balcony, so I need to be very picky). Thank you
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 25 MAY 18 by Give me caffeine
No, I don't have all three yet. At the moment I only have Lincoln.

Re scent: a problem here is that, since I don't have all three side by side, any comparisons have to rely on memory and may also be affected by growing conditions, weather, etc.

However, for what it's worth: all of three of them are utterly scrumptious. I distinctly remember Oklahoma's scent as being "darker" and earthier than Lincoln, if you will excuse the synaesthesia, but in a totally good way. Lincoln, although still very rich, felt a bit lighter and maybe fruitier.

My Lincoln isn't out at the moment, so I couldn't do a direct comparison the same day as Papa Meilland, but the latter didn't smell quite like what my memory says Lincoln smells like. I remember thinking it was different, but I couldn't say exactly how at the moment. This is one reason why I'd like to try all three under the same conditions.

Lincoln is very vigorous, and tends to head for the sky like a rocket. I've heard that Oklahoma is a bit more restrained, and Meilland even more so. Meilland's colour is closer to Lincoln than to Oklahoma.
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 6 JUN 18 by Just-one-more-rose
For some reason I didn't get a notification of your response, and just happened to be checking out Papa M again today, and saw your answer :-) Thanks for your detailed descriptions - I don't mind the synaesthesia at all (I did have to look up what synaesthesia meant though ;-) ) My Fragrant Charm is shooting up and has a couple of blooms already, but my Oklahoma has made only 1 or 2 new canes and not even a single bud yet <sigh> I had put it down to some sawfly issues that she had a few weeks ago, and a bit of thrips now, but maybe, as you say, she is just restrained. But I do love that fragrance, so I'm not giving up yet.
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 7 JUN 18 by Give me caffeine
I think Oklahoma has the best scent out of the three, but they're all delicious.
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 7 JUN 18 by Just-one-more-rose
Thank you!
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