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https://www.houzz.com/discussions/1703547/your-best-roses-that-are-intensely-fragrant-please
jpw_chi(5b Chicago, IL)
Most fragrant roses by number of votes from Gardenweb, compiled by Jim W. on Nov. 2007

23x Double Delight (creamy white swirled with strawberry red)
23x Mr. Lincoln (dark red)
15x Fragrant Cloud (coral red)
13x Chrysler Imperial (burgundy red)
13x Gertrude Jekyll (rose pink)
13x Jude the Obscure (honey)
10x Crimson Glory
10x Lemon Spice (patel yellow tinted pale pink)
9x Abraham Darby (Austin, apricot blend)
9x Francis Dubruiel (dark true red)
9x Papa Meilland (dark red)
8x Evelyn (Austin, apricot pink blend)
8x Heirloom (dark mauve blend)
8x Rose de Rescht (vivid fuchsia)
8x Secret (white tipped pink)
8x Sharifa Asma (Austin, pearly pink)
8x Sunsprite (bright yellow)
8x Sweet Chariot (purple blend)
8x Tiffany (pink/yellow blend)
7x Angel Face (1968, dusky mauve)
7x Melody Parfumee (deep plum fading to clear lavender)
7x The McCartney Rose (ruffled, few petals)
7x Yves Piaget (Romantica, hot pink)
6x Granada (yellow, orange, scarlet tricolor)
6x Just Joey (clear apricot) 6x Mirandy
6x Scentimental (white striped with red)
6x Secret Garden Musk Climber
6x Zephirine Drouhin (cerise pink)

Jim W. on November, 2007
31 AUG
Planted in zone 5 along a path. Now after its second full winter (was planted 5/16, so technically it's third summer) it has really taken off, after little growth the first two years. Full clusters of lollipop-tangerine colored flowers, somewhat old fashioned looking. I was hoping for the more flat-topped "austin" look that many of he pictures, but each petal here has a tip/point. I get a lot of compliments about her! The color is unique, and mine are darker a vivid "coral" but very "pigmented" looking, not pastel at all. Might lose a few of the bottom leaves to BS but overall thriving with no fungicides.
28 AUG
8/28/2018
Heirloom 1st time success in bloom. I planted in Nov 2017, Today 8/28/2018 first bloom. Bulb was red, and the 1st day I thought it must be Okahoma red rose. I found out it only fragrant when there is direct sun. After the sun comes down, there is no fragrant. I transplant it to the square pot. with rabbit mutrual.

Dream Come True
change to bigger pot. 2 new cutting 's new root should be dying soon. add rabbit muture.
"What's in a name?
That which we call a rose by any other word would smell as sweet;..."
Shakespeare.


That we call a rose by any other word would look as pretty, not all roses are beautiful, some are just hideous.
Rosa chinensis 'Viridiflora' is a curio without any petals at all. Its sepals have multiplied, increasing to form rosettes but without nectaries or sexual parts it will forever be scentless and barren. I first saw this plant grown in the long thin beds adjacent to the glasshouses many years ago when I was a student along with half-hardies like Amicia, Erythrina and Musa 'Dwarf Cavendish'. Grown with these awkward exotics it blended in, not looking out of place among this unusual otherworldliness and just a pane of glass away from all kinds of outragious tropical beauties. But it in itself certainly isn't beautiful. Green flowers always grab my attention, at the time I was fascinated my the phyllodic forms of Anemone nemorosa and Primula vulgaris 'Viridiflora'. As I qualified and moved on from the R.H.S. I kept the memory of the green China rose mulling around inside my head but I never worked anywhere where I had an excuse to plant it. The gardens of my employers always had beauty over curiosity policies and I was unable to endulge any fantasies. Now with my own garden and interest in China roses, 'Viridiflora' was one of the first I grew. Here in North Devon with a far colder climate, especially in summer, it lacks its exotic posse to hide amongst, in my garden it just looks plain odd and occupies a space and my time that could be filled by someting far more asthetically pleasing. It needs pointing out to visitors too whose quest for colour and scent ignore it and even then needs explaining to bemused expresions as to why I spend any resources to accommadate this plant.
Never reaching swan status, another very ugly duckling is 'Mousseux du Japon'. I adore the resinous scent from moss roses and their bristly buds and stems. But with the Japanese moss it is covered with the thickest moss overwhelming any attractiveness this rose might poses and the moss isn't even very scented. If you want a dark moss rose then grow 'William Lobb' or 'Nuits de Young' which I suspect might share some breeding. Too much of a good thing.
Another horror is Rosa multiflora var. watsoniana. Lured by a description in a book and an interest in dwarf sports I acquired this rose before I had heard of HMF and ordered it without seeing a picture first. Probably caused by a virus most of its leaves are reduced to thread-like ribbons, it looks like a careless gardener has wafted glyphosate over it, the flowers too deformed and almost colourless. Again I resent my time and money spent on giving this rose a place in my garden. Rather a weakling it needs growing in a pot and cosseting with some protection in winter as it is also a martyr to die-back. Rosa multiflora has a myriad of forms and varieties, some very pretty dwarf perpetual sports all far superior to watsoniana.
Even being a selected form of Rosa sericea f. pteracantha, 'Redwings' does not improve the qualities of this rose. Some or most of the prickles are an exaggerated elongated and flattened shape. There are descriptions waxing lyrical about the translucent mid-summer light refracting through the raspberry coloured prickles. But all too soon these dry out becoming pale brownish-grey and giving the bush an appearance of an aggressive stegosaurus. Far too unpretty and weird to be grown in the vicinity of other roses and in my garden very prone to die back too. Rosa sericea has another oddity making it different and alternative, it only has four petals in some of its forms. Unfortunately 'Redwings' isn't one of them allowing it even less endearment and interest. Two years ago I was given a Rosa sericea seedling grown from seed collected in the Himalayas which has elegant ferny leaves, dainty twigs and tiny dainty prickles. It makes a pleasing aesthetically acceptable shrub and hopefully when it flowers for the first time this spring will only have four petals.
In a tribe of plants that have such beauty why do I choose such deformed freakish misfits? What could be next, Rosa wichuriana 'Variegata'?...

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