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Initial post 10 days ago by perpetua
how can such a tiny young plant produce such big gorgeous blooms?I'm new to gallicas and the more I see of them,the harder I fall in love!I'm just a tad worried that I won't prune them nicely,but I hope to improve with time.duchesse d'orient will definitely be on my next rose order.
Reply #1 of 6 posted yesterday by Alma
Did you notice, that Duchesse d'Orient is no Gallica? It is sold as a Gallica but probably a Portland Rose.
Reply #2 of 6 posted yesterday by perpetua
No,I hadn't noticed.I'm very new to Gallicas(and to roses in general,only 5 yrs experience),but I love my Portlands;I grow Jacques Cartier,Yolande D'Aragon,Sidonie,Indigo and Comte de Chambord and I adore them all.I'm planning to buy Pergolese and Glendora,Duchesse de Rohan,maybe also Arthur de Sansal this fall.I'm afraid I couldn't for the life of me tell which rose family a plant belongs to.My knowledge and my tastes remain quite rudimentary.With a few exceptions,I'm fairly disappointed with my modern roses;I plan to replace them with old ones.Climbers,again with a few notable exceptions,have been driving me crazy,as I still struggle to give them an appropriate shape(and fail miserably most of the times).Moss roses intrigue me,even though I grow only Salet,which I absolutely adore.Will definitely be buying some Mosses too this fall(william lobb,soupert et notting,henri martin,mme louis leveque)
Reply #3 of 6 posted yesterday by Andrew from Dolton
'Duchesse d'Orient' has little hooked prickles as most portlands do and leaves growing close to the flowers very much like your 'Jaques Cartier' does. If you like gallicas I can give you suckers of 'Rosa Mundi', Officinalis', 'Charles de Mills' and 'Camieux' if you would like. There is a wonderful book called ROSA GALLICA by Suzanne Verrier it can be bought cheaply second hand on Amazon, it will make you want to grow them even more...
Reply #5 of 6 posted yesterday by perpetua
Yes,Jacques does have leaves very close to the flowers!Thank you so much for the offer,but I think I'll start with grafted ones and then have fun making my own cuttings.So far I have managed to root 3 Gruss an Coburg puny cuttings,one Grace and in late April,an Ingrid Bergman red new sprout that I had accidentally broken off.I believe Ingrid has taken root because I've noticed red leaves under the bottle.I'm a bit scared to lift the bottle to know for sure.Thank you so much for the book recommendation,I can use any help I can get with gallicas.
Reply #4 of 6 posted yesterday by Nastarana
Why is the name shown in quotes? Was this a found rose? I agree it looks like a Portland, as witness the drooping, soft leaves.
Reply #6 of 6 posted yesterday by Patricia Routley
"Double quotes" is the international signal for a found rose. 'Single quotes', or none, denotes a bred and named rose.
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Initial post 19 NOV 13 by Amy's Idaho Rose Garden
I also did research on Simsalabim. I have wanted it forever and could never get my hands on it.
The word is Scandinavian in origin. Appeared in a America in the 1900 used in a magic show, by a magician named Dante.
And yes Sim Sala Bim = Abracadabra.

Funny I had some thought about how much Simsalabim pictures looked like my Abracadabra!
Thank you Kim for bringing this up.
Reply #1 of 2 posted yesterday by Xoan Mos
I am looking for a rose called abracadabra.
Can anyone point me to where I can get a cutting???
Much appreciated,
Reply #2 of 2 posted yesterday by AzRoseLady
I do not know about a cutting. You can buy a rooted plant from
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Initial post 3 days ago by Les Racines du Vent
There is something reminiscent of Rosa majalis in Rosa x suionum (pubescence on young shoots, brownich red wood...). In my opinion, it doesn't look like an alba, neither a centifolia, so my guess is that the rose currently known as 'Minette' might not be the original or (as it oftens happens so) the original classification was a bit loose, if i may say.
Reply #1 of 3 posted 2 days ago by Nastarana
What this rose does resemble is 'Jeremiah Pink' from High Country Roses. JP is a found rose from Fairmont Cemetery in Denver. It could surely have been brought to North America from Scandinavia and found its way to Denver. JP in my view also does not resemble an alba. It does give one profuse flowering in spring and makes a rather attractive shrub the rest of the season. I have it planted along the property line which in my view is the best use of it.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 2 days ago by Les Racines du Vent
You're lucky if it makes an attractive shrub! in my climate (french Jura) the blooms, indeed, ball to the point where you only get a few flowers to open each year and as for the shrub, it doesn't do well enough to be of ornamental value out of blooming time: the growth is rather stiff, not really dense nor of elegant habit and the foliage too scarce in my opinion.
Reply #3 of 3 posted yesterday by Nastarana
The blooms don't ball for me at all. As for the shrub, by no stretch of anyone's imagination can my yard be described as landscaped. JP grows and grows and grows into a large shrub of I would say medium density which provides adequate screening between two yards and the foliage is a rather attractive (to me) grass green color. The leaflets are smaller, rounder and lighter in color than typical greyish green alba foliage. I prune once a year after flowering. JP will tolerate pruning and will blithely grow back from a hard prune. I have found that removing a third or even slightly more of the long and flexible canes won't compromise the next year's flowering.

I truly do not know if my JP is or is not really 'Minette' or "Banshee". The HCR catalogue suggests that it might be. I do suspect that "Banshee" must have been an introduced rose, and not a spontaneous hybrid.
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Initial post 1 FEB 06 by Rosenschule Ruf
Ther are sometimes problems with semiplena and suaveolens because the only difference is that semiplena has less petals, but its easy if you are able to compare the flowers. Do that at the photos!
Reply #1 of 1 posted yesterday by Nastarana
I just planted an 'alba suavolens', which I bought from High Country Roses, between 'alba semiplena' and 'alba maxima' . Next spring I should be able to compare all three, provided I can protect them from Peter Rabbit over the winter.
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