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Initial post 2 AUG by Michael Garhart
Most of Meilland codes ending with "sar" are climbing mutations. Only a few exceptions (Papa Meilland is one). So the likelihood of the unknown portion of the lineage of Polka is probably a climbing sport of a known rose. There have been known to be translation errors in Meilland codes over the decades, and Meilland has used Cl. Bettina (MEIpalsar) for other climbers, so its suspect to me at this point.

Edit: I did searching for no reason. The answer is right here in the US Patent:

"The female parent (i.e., the seed parent) was the product of the pollination of the Meipalsar variety (non-patented in the United States) and the Golden Showers variety (U.S. Plant Pat. No. 1,557). The male parent (i.e., the pollen parent) of the new variety was the Light Konigin Lucia variety (non-patented in the United States). The parentage of the new variety can be summarized as follows:

(Meipalsar×Golden Showers)×Licht Konigin Lucia."
Reply #1 of 5 posted yesterday by Jay-Jay
The parentage is shown on the description page, but there is written Meipaisar instead of Meipalsar. Maybe a typo or forgotten to put glasses on?
Reply #2 of 5 posted yesterday by Patricia Routley
Definitely forgot the glasses. Now fixed. Many thanks to you both.
Reply #3 of 5 posted today by Michael Garhart

I just noticed a typo for Cl. Bettina. It says 'Mepalsar', instead of 'Meipalsar', so the lineage for Polka isnt connecting.
Reply #4 of 5 posted today by Jay-Jay
Extracted from:

Botanische naam: Rosa 'Meipalsar' (Climbing Bettina)
Geslacht: Rosa
Groep: Trosbloemige Klimmer Groep (Klimroos)
Synoniemen: Rosa Climbing Bettina , Rosa 'Grimpant Bettina' , Rosa 'Mepalsar'
Familie: Rosaceae (Rozenfamilie)

I wrote to Meilland too via their contact-form, which name is the right-one for Bettina Cl.
Reply #5 of 5 posted today by Alain Meilland
The orignal variety is BETTINA® Mepal (without the i of Mei)
The Climber mutation of BETTINA® Mepal was registered under the varietal name Meipalsar (with the i of Mei)
Don't ask me why, I wasn't born ;)
Best regards
Matthias Meilland
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Initial post yesterday by Zingiber
This is the best rose I have ever disliked. It is very floriferous, smells beautiful, has big blooms and is (by far) the most vigorous of all my roses. Heaps of basal breaks, and very little disease. Sadly the colour for me is quite dreadful - it starts out passable, looking like a gaudy second-rate "Peace'; but the flowers fade very fast so that the red edges become a blotchy pale tint of cerise and the yellow a washed out muddy cream. The overall appearance of the flowers is quite dull and too similar in hue to the new growth (bronzy green) so they get lost and look messy; and they clash a bit with the mature leaves (dark olive green). Some of the flowers pictured here look much brighter and cleaner than mine and make me envious. I wonder whether it is just my soil?
At any rate, I am giving it away. It is far to good a rose in every other respect for me to feel good about destroying it, but it continually tries to make me feel bad - flowers its heart out, trying desperately to make me happy! Can't keep a plant which makes me feel this conflicted!
Reply #1 of 1 posted today by Jay-Jay
Thank You Zingiber. Maybe more people should tell or show, how a rose can look disappointing too, like You did.
I showed that for Pierre de Ronsard, or Eden in my last photos:
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Initial post today by HubertG
Does anyone have any more information about this rose? There is just one photo in it's profile and little else.
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