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Discussion id : 109-043
most recent 11 MAR SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 5 MAR by Kathy Strong's Del Cerro Garden
Ahem. This nursery is back to the practice of introducing "new" roses that are actually old roses under newly invented (by them) marketing names. I called them out on this when they introduced "Moonlight in Paris" that is actually Garden and Home, a previously introduced variety in the US (by Ludwigs), and for which "Garden and Home" is also the official exhibition name for that rose. A few weeks ago, they showed the codename (DELanac) of "Moonlight in Paris" on their website, so one could see when this supposedly "new" rose was actually a re-introduction of the older rose under a new name, which in that case, it was. Their response to being called out on using new marketing names was to remove the codenames from their website listings for their so-called "new" roses. So they have now just taken to hiding the fact that their "new" roses are actually re-introductions of older roses under newly invented names. Beware!
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 5 MAR by HEIRLOOM ROSES
Dear Kathy Strong's Del Cerro Garden,

Thank your for your post, however, we do not take the liberty to rename roses for marketing or any other purposes.

The rose you referred to had it's name changed directly by the breeder. We have never grown Garden and Home, so this rose, Moonlight in Paris was new to us and introduced as such to our customers.

If you would like to discuss our new introduction process, please give us a call and our Sales and Marketing Manager will be happy to speak with you. You can reach us at 800-820-0465.

Thank you.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 11 MAR by Kathy Strong's Del Cerro Garden
That's different than what I had heard, and if I am wrong, I am sorry. But, for the record, what I understood was that you had obtained these roses from Ludwig's stock after Anja closed the Arizona company, and there this rose was known as "Garden and Home," and a few of my rose society pals that bought it from them grow it under that name, which is also how the ARS has it registered. I also looked at the current Ludwigs catalog for their South African company, and it is also sold there as "Garden and Home."

See, this quote from Ludwig's current catalog blurb on this rose:
Garden and Home DELanac(N)
One of few roses with informal growth habit & flower
shape of the old roses while possessing flower power
& vigour; clusters on upright growing stems - pickable.
Round buds open slowly to classical cup shape of old
roses; many petals & stamens; fruity, spicy fragrance;
deep green, slightly frilly leaves. Plant alone, in groups,
rows or mix with others.
From Ludwigs 2017/2018 catalog: see, http://www.ludwigsroses.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/2017-18_ludwigs_roses_catalogue.pdf


So, with all that, now I am really curious who took it upon themselves to rename this rose "Moonlight in Paris." Can you shed any light on that?
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Discussion id : 105-401
most recent 7 SEP HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 7 SEP by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Ordered many roses twice from this nursery as own-root band-sizes in 2013 and 2014. Very happy with the health & correct label & prompt shipping of their roses during their special summer sales.
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Discussion id : 91-043
most recent 22 FEB 16 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 22 FEB 16 by Dianne's Southwest Idaho Rose Garden
I would like to request that you update your plant availability list if you want to be relevant on this venue at all. I find it frustrating when nurseries continue to list plants that they don't offer.
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Discussion id : 78-684
most recent 28 MAY 15 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 2 JUN 14 by Rosecandy
I've ordered ten roses from Heirloom these last two years, and all my roses are doing fantastically! They arrived in excellent health and any stress they had from shipping was quickly outgrown. I have clay soil and planted them directly into unamended ground and they're doing really well. One was eaten by a rabbit the night I planted it and it has come back with vigor and even has a bud on it! Perhaps the most important part is that every time I've called or e-mailed with a question or concern they've responded quickly and thoroughly and have always been very friendly.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 28 MAY 15 by hatsunohana
I agree. I've ordered two roses from Heirloom Roses (Crepuscule and Apothecary's) and they bloomed in their first season and are doing fabulously. These roses are very healthy and very beautiful.
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