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'Miss Edith Cavell' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 86-500
most recent 12 JUL 15 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 11 JUL 15 by scvirginia
Shouldn't the discoverer of this sport be listed as Jan Spek Nurseries? It is given as a discovery of Jan Spek in early references, but credited to 'De Ruiter' on the description page.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 11 JUL 15 by Patricia Routley
Having 'Miss Edith Cavell' in my garden, this has puzzled me too. I suspect that it may have been found by Meiderwyk in the nursery rows of De Ruiter and introduced by Spek. But that is all guesswork, which is not good enough. Who was Meiderwyk? Perhaps only old Dutch catalogues can help sort this one out.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 12 JUL 15 by scvirginia
The 1978 reference from Harkness' book explains it, though if Harkness is correct that the discovery of 'Miss Edith Cavell' led to de Ruiter's later success, it's puzzling that he wasn't credited with the discovery from the beginning? Possibly de Ruiter was working in Spek's nursery at the time of the discovery? De Ruiter Innovations is now a large rose-growing company, presumably founded by the same Gerrit de Ruiter that Harkness spoke to? But who or what or where is Meiderwyk?

I also wonder if Harkness' speculation that de Ruiter could have produced 80,000 clones of 'Miss Edith' in 3 years was later reported as fact? I did see a mention in 'Polyantha Roses-- the History and the Romance' that de Ruiter himself claimed to have produced 80,000 plants in a year and a half, but don't know if Harkness' guess was reported as fact, or if there was an independent source in which de Ruiter stated how many plants he was able to propagate between the sport's discovery in August of 1914 and its introduction by Spek in autumn of 1917.
http://www.pacificrosesociety.org/PolyanthaRomance.html

Who in wartime Europe would have been buying 80,000 polyanthas, I wonder?

Virginia
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Discussion id : 82-870
most recent 29 JAN 15 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 29 JAN 15 by Michael Garhart
Ive always considered this may be one of the unknown parents of Ballerina.
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