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'Alika' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 103-807
most recent 1 AUG HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 1 AUG by Sambolingo
Available from - Old Market Farm
www.oldmarketfarm.com
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Discussion id : 73-372
most recent 3 AUG 13 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 3 AUG 13 by CybeRose
Hardy Roses for South Dakota (1929)
Niels Ebbesen Hansen

This rose was received from Russia in the fall of 1906, and was selected by N. E. Hansen at the Regel & Kesselring Nursery at St. Petersburg, on the 1906 tour enroute to Siberia.

Flowers large, fragrant, semi-double, with as high as 46 petals, with many stamens. The color is a brilliant red with no purple in it. The plant is hardy. Flowers abundant in June but not throughout the season.

This rose is worthy of propagation owing to its bright red color and hardiness. No notes as to the origin of this rose are available at the present time.

Since the full name, Rosa gallica grandiflora, is too long for every day use, the name, Alika, adapted from the Latin name (with the "i" as in "like"), has been given for convenience in recent years by the writer.
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Discussion id : 64-982
most recent 11 JUN 12 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 10 JUN 12 by Daniel from Normandy
Bonjour,
I don't see any difference between 'Alika' and 'Gallica splendens' !
Could you clarify ?
Both have nothing to do with 1583 nor with a francofurtana
Kindly yours
Daniel
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 11 JUN 12 by jedmar
There are many who state that 'Gallica splendens' is in reality a francofurtana. Re 'Alika', you might have received a plant which ist the same as 'Gallica splendens'. Can you explain your view for discussion?
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 11 JUN 12 by Roseraie "Roses de Normandie"
Thank you for your response.
I think that there is a widespread confusion concerning Francofurtana (probably due to the misleading synonymy 'turbinata' introduced by Aiton, 1789)
If you go to the pictures of "Francofurtana" on HelpMeFind you will see that there is a total disagreement between the presented figures : the painting by Jacquin is very different from the others pictures concerning the ovary. Indeed, the painting by Jacquin is wrong and does not represent Francofurtana but an other rose. Look also at the pictures by De L'Ecluse (Clusius) for his Rosa sine spinis (1601), or by Redouté as well as by Willmott and you will have confirmation that the ovary of the true Francofurtana is very large (this rose was called 'A gros cul' in France!). Prévost (1829) is very clear "ovaire au collet évasé sans étranglement". This kind of large ovary is also found on the francofurtana 'Imperatrice Joséphine'.
Thus, there is no synonymy between francofurtana and 'gallica splendens' or 'Alika'. These last 2 roses looking very similar on HelpMeFind.
Kindly yours,
Daniel
Roses de Normandie
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Discussion id : 55-750
most recent 1 SEP 11 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 5 JUL 11 by Naasra
On my opinion, this rose doesn't really exist, but is identical with Rosa gallica 'Splendens'. Up to now, I've never seen one which is not 'Splendens'. All these pictures show R. gallica 'Splendens', too.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 31 AUG 11 by Hardy
A few months ago, I acquired both Alika and Splendens as breeding stock, and am growing them side by side. My impression so far is that there are some slight differences, but I'm not sure how far they go, so I'll study them over the next year, and report what I notice.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 1 SEP 11 by Naasra
Very interesting. I'm really curious about the results of your study. I'll be looking forward to your report.
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