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'Danaë' rose Reviews & Comments
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Dans la mythologie grecque, fille d’Acrisios et d’Eurydice, séduite par Zeus qui se transforma en pluie d’or.
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Dans la mythologie grecque, fille d’Acrisios et d’Eurydice, séduite par Zeus qui se transforma en pluie d’or.
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If you look at some of the photos of Roberta Bondar, Buff Beauty's hybrid from the same set of breeder (Pemberton/Bentall of that era), there are green-gold buds, like the buds of several of my Danae hybrids. This makes me wonder if they are even more closely related than stated, and gives me further feelings that Danae's reported parentage is incorrect. The reported parentage, while possible in breeding, seems very unlikely.
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#1 of 6 posted
6 JAN 16 by
 CybeRose
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I agree. I wonder if the pollen parent might have been 'Madame Chédane-Guinoisseau', a yellow Tea.
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Brilliant deduction!
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Ya know... that seems so plausible, looking at the few photos available. The prickle type and the foliage type seem plausible...
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#4 of 6 posted
7 JAN 16 by
CybeRose
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'Gloire de C-D' was released in 1907. That wouldn't have allowed much time for testing it, breeding and then testing the progeny. 'Mme C-D', on the other hand, was still being recommended as a decorative variety in 1907.
Still, I'd like to find Pemberton's own comment on the ancestry.
And this just in: 'Mme. Chédane-Guinoisseau' was a sport from 'Mme. Falcot'.
Journal des roses p. 106 (Juillet 1902)
Madame Falcot (Guillot fils, 1858), a produit Madame Chédane-Guinoisseau (Levet, 1880).
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I had a little search yesterday. ‘Danae’ was a 1913 rose. The Rev died in 1926.
No parentages were shown in Modern Roses 1, 1930, but they were shown in Modern Roses II in 1940.
Where did these parentages come from?
Looking at Pemberton’s two 1913 roses, I find it interesting that two different pollen parents were put forward.
'Moonlight'. Trier x Sulphurea
'Danae'. Trier x .....somethingorother Guinoisseau
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#6 of 6 posted
8 JAN 16 by
CybeRose
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Patricia,
I don't find it odd that he would introduce only the best from each cross. However, I would still like to know who came up with the alleged pollen parents.
Karl
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The Rose Annual (1915) p. 165
PEMBERTONS NEW SEEDLING ROSES, 1913.
Danae (Hybrid Tea). Perpetual flowering yellow cluster. Good in September. Not liable to mildew. Silver-Gilt Medal, N.R.S. Silver Medal, R.H.S. (Ireland). Award of Merit, R.H.S. Plants in autumn, 1/6 each.
For further particulars, apply to the Raiser, from whom they can be obtained.
The Rev. J. H. PEMBERTON,
Havering-atte-Bower, Romford, Essex.
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