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Initial post 25 JUN 11 by Kim Rupert
Per the patent for this rose, the parentage is as follows:

Origin and Breeding Controlled pollination: seed parent ‘The Fairy’ x pollen parent (‘The Fairy’ x seedling) x ‘Amanda’. The seed parent ‘The Fairy’ differs from ‘Korstesgli’ in flower colour rose pink and growth habit. The pollen parent is a breeding line confined to the breeder’s collection. The rose ‘Amanda’ has pure yellow flowers. Selection criteria: good flower colour, high flower production, ground cover rose. Propagation: ‘Korstesgli’ proved stable through numerous vegetative generations via cuttings. Breeder: Wilhelm Kordes, Sparrieshoop, Germany.
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Reply #1 of 6 posted 25 JUN 11 by jedmar
Thank you! The 'Amanda' which is mentioned in the parentage cannot be Bees' plant, as it is described as pure yellow.
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Reply #2 of 6 posted 25 JUN 11 by Kim Rupert
Hello Jedmar, I noticed that. Hopefully, someone in Europe can shed some light on that one! Thanks. Kim
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Reply #4 of 6 posted 18 OCT 19 by Michael Garhart
A revisit to the past.

The male parent is likely Flower Carpet Pink. FCP is Grouse x Amanda, and Grouse is The Fairy x "Wich hybrid", which is actually just Temple Bells.

So in essence this rose is [The Fairy ((The Fairy x Temple Bells) x Amanda)]

The Amanda used is likely the Bees version. The Arthur Bell line was used to breed out foliar diseases that are not black spot. Rosa rubiginosa is among the few species found in studies with the ability to reduce downy in many clones (but not all).
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Reply #3 of 6 posted 24 OCT 15 by Michael Garhart
"The pollen parent is a breeding line confined to the breeder’s collection."

I don't believe that part at all. Seems oddly similar to Noack's.

In regard to the "pure yellow" part, patents are not always as precise as they could be.

But, because it is not precise, we are left with no real conclusions.
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Reply #5 of 6 posted 19 OCT 19 by jedmar
I will see if Kordes is willing to clarify the point.
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Reply #6 of 6 posted 19 OCT 19 by Kim Rupert
Thank you!
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