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'Jude the Obscure' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 93-370
most recent 28 NOV SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 13 JUN 16 by johnm99
One of my favourite roses. Fragrance 10/10 - maybe the most fragrant of all roses - really amazing. I like the rounded infolded cabbagey blooms, great colour, a bit of blackspot, but very healthy and vigorous otherwise. Really worth putting at the front of the bed or garden entrance to enjoy the fragrance. I have about 150 roses - all of which had to be very fragrant to be chosen - this one is right at the top.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 28 NOV by Lavenderlace
I'm having the same experience with Jude here in Z8.
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Discussion id : 53-255
most recent 15 SEP 16 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 4 APR 11 by Andrea Georgia
Interestingly, my 4 year old grafted Jude the Obscure (purchased from David Austin, and grafted on multiflora, I think) looks like it may not have survived our winter here in Cambridge, England - the past two winters were a bit colder than usual, but it's still hardiness zone 8! Jude is the only of my many David Austin roses that died, none of my other Austins have shown any setback. (However, there are two other two winter casualties in my garden: the Italian hybrid tea Stile 800 (Barni) and a the French hybrid tea Liv Tyler (Meilland)). Overall, I have to say that the Jude the Obscure I grew in North Carolina (purchased from DA in Tyler TX, grafted on Dr Huey) was a lot happier than the one I had here, a bigger plant and more prolific bloomer - and we had some cold winters in North Carolina too, with night temps dipping down to -10 C, but less frost in daytime. However, I think that Jude's superb grapefruit perfume and lovely flowers make it a very worthy rose for a warm and dry climate.

Andrea Georgia
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Reply #1 of 6 posted 12 DEC 11 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Thank you, Andrea, for the info. Here in zone 5a I don't see Jude blooming at the rose park in cool spring nor in the fall (Abraham Darby sure did !!). Jude only blooms in the hottest months July to September. Jude's upper branches are low in thorns. The beauty of the bloom is exquisite with geometric circles and refreshing yellow color. The scent is delicious like the most yummy tropical dessert.

Two of my own-root Jude the Obscure died through my zone 5a winter. Jude as grafted on Dr. Huey survived only 2 years at the rose park nearby. I got Jude as own-root again this year, but will winterize in my garage in the winter.
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Reply #2 of 6 posted 6 AUG 15 by boopie
This helps so much! I live in zone 10, in So. Ca. I want a big bush to put on a display in the summer months. This rose according to Austin, will also handle some shade. So as hard as it can be to find a rose to do everything. I believe I have found a winner for a particular spot in my garden.
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Reply #3 of 6 posted 11 AUG 15 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Jude does better as grafted-on-Dr.Huey, esp. for alkaline clay. I grew 2 Judes as own-roots in my alkaline clay, Jude hated that. But Jude improved when I fixed my heavy clay with coarse sand, which fluffs up clay forever. In contrast, organics (peat moss, compost, alfalfa, leaves, wood chips) would de-compose and glue-up with clay to choke out wimpy own-roots like Jude. I tried everything (including perlite, gypsum, alfalfa hay) to fix my high-magnesium heavy clay, and coarse sand is still the best. I dug up spots in my garden where I fixed heavy clay with coarse sand, and 15 years later, it's still fluffly. I planted 5 white-pine-trees, one tree fixed with coarse sand is over 30 feet tall & dark green a decade later. Two trees in heavy clay died, the others became chlorotic (pale & yellowish). When the soil is made fluffy with coarse sand, leaves are dark-green, and roots can go deeper. Folks use coarse sand to root roses. NOTE: there are many different types of clay, thus different ways to fix them, my clay is dolomitic (high in magnesium & calcium), and I'm next to limestone quarry.
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Reply #4 of 6 posted 14 SEP 16 by Lavenderlace
I have Jude growing in both alkaline clay and sandy soil and he definitely likes the coarse sand better here also (Z8). The first year plants in sandy soil are at least a foot taller and covered in apricot roses versus the occasional pale yellow rose in clay.
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Reply #5 of 6 posted 14 SEP 16 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Thank you for the info., much appreciated !!
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Reply #6 of 6 posted 15 SEP 16 by Lavenderlace
And thank you to your advice about the coarse sand! I added some to my areas with more clay to match my more naturally sandy areas, and what a difference it's making.
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Discussion id : 87-238
most recent 10 AUG 15 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 10 AUG 15 by Unregistered Guest
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Discussion id : 87-237
most recent 10 AUG 15 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 10 AUG 15 by Unregistered Guest
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