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'Sir Winston Churchill' rose Reviews & Comments
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Responding further to Charles Quest-Ritson’s photo comment.
Dear Charles,
I too have always been a little puzzled by the colours quoted for ‘Sir Winston Churchill’. I took material of a Rose originally planted in c1959/60 from the David Martin private garden in 2002. From the HelpMeFind photos, it appears that this rose may have been from the same clone as in the next paragraph.
In June 2013 Pat Toolan, being a Churchill Fellowship lady, kindly sent propagating material of David Ruston’s large plant to John Moore, head of Grounds and Gardens, Churchill College for, I believe, the 50th anniversary of the death of Sir Winston Churchill.
Do you have the provenance and back story of the <2020 Hampton Court rose?
We have the red photo from 1956; the 1959 and 1962 references which quote palish and buff pink colours; and most references quoting deeper pink with orange/salmon. Perhaps Mr. Hazlewood was right when he said in 1957 “colour varies” and I can only suggest that the Hampton Court rose be planted right alongside the Ruston clone. It would take some years to get results, but these things do.
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I'll see what Plant Heritage can tell me and come back to you on this. Charles.
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Churchill College has now confirmed that the specimens I saw in England last year come from the budwood that Pat Toolan sent from David Ruston. Their exact words are: 'The rose was sent over by Pat Toolan and it came from Ruston’s Rose garden in Australia and we had it budded at Peter Beales. The colour of the printing might not be the most accurate in 1956, we find the rose when it is in tight bud it is deep pink and when it opens it goes salmon pink with the shades of orange at the base.' I'll send the e-mail to you separately. So it is probably just another example of how quickly the yellow pigment in roses fades in the heat and sunlight of the Riverina.
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Thank you Charles. A great outcome. It is wonderful how knowing the PROVENANCE can show that a rose blooming in different colours, in different countries, may well be the same rose.
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The Rose Annual 1962
pge 132
The Great Summer Rose Show A J Huxley
Two of the other contestants here achieved a Gold Medal: Frank Cant & Co. and Stephen Treseder & Sons. Messrs. Cant featured 'Sir Winston Churchill', a real cabbage rose in palish pink, heavily petalled and fragrant, and another newish variety in 'Love Song', ......
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Thank you Pat. That is a valuable reference as it is sounding like the rose we grow in Australia
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15 OCT 12 by
 goncmg
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Does anyone in the US have this one growing??? My goal is to pretty much get as many from Edlund's "Pocket Encyclopedia of Roses" as possible and this one's picture in that book is just so unique--it may even be a drawing and doesn't at all look like the pictures here but that doesn't matter. It is a Holy Grail for my yard...........and I want it!
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Hello Chris,
There are now a few more references and photos of 'Sir Winston Churchill' in the file, including the Edland's "Pocket Encyclopedia of Roses" photo. I just can't equate those old photos from Europe with what we grow here in Australia. And yet, the accompanying descriptions mostly do seem to match the rose we are growing.
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30 JUN 13 by
goncmg
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Hi Patricia! LOVE that page from the "Pocket".....thank you so much for posting it!
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Strikes readily from cuttings.
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