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'Mister Lincoln' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 93-302
most recent 9 JUN 16 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 9 JUN 16 by jim1961
Our own root ML died 2015. We had it 4 years. No blackspot issues at all in our no spray garden here in Central Pa. ML did get a little PM in its 4th year but no biggie. Not a very good bloomer! Our ML only had about 16-24 blooms total each entire growing season...Blooms blew quickly 24-48 hours...
ML smelled great though!
Discussion id : 82-667
most recent 22 JUL 15 SHOW ALL
Initial post 24 JAN 15 by Give me caffeine
There's an old 'Mister Lincoln' where I'm currently living, and I've had the chance to observe it for 5 or 6 years now so I thought I'd add my (non-expert) observations.

First, it's tough. I think that to actually kill the thing would require skill and determination. This is in a sub-tropical climate, which can get very hot and dry before the summer rains hit, and very hot and wet when they do. 'Mister Lincoln' will survive on minimal water in the dry times, when necessary, but will cope with sustained sub-tropical downpours too.

I do have some sympathy for the old beast, and have it (trans)planted where it gets full sun all day, with plenty of air circulation, good soil and good drainage. My transplanting was a bit rough, but it didn't seem to notice. It does get black spot at times but, as other people have noted, is so vigorous that it won't be too bothered. I do spray it very occasionally, if I think it really could do with it, but generally it just survives on a bit of water and feeding.

Feeding regime is very loose, and consists of a mixture of packaged rose food, Seasol, Epsom salts, and whatever else seems like a good idea at the time, whenever I remember and feel a bit guilty. Despite this, it still throws out the typical 'Mister Lincoln' flowers in intermittent flushes.

The only real drawback is that, like a lot of Hybrid Teas, the bush itself is not that great to look at when it is not in flower. Even in flower, it tends to be the typical Hybrid Tea "flowers on top of spikey sticks, with sufficient foliage to keep the thing fed".

However, if you need an idiot-proof rose that makes big, stinky, red flowers, this one works.
Reply #1 of 4 posted 25 JAN 15 by billy teabag
My experience with 'Mr Lincoln' almost perfectly mirrors your own.
Most of the roses in that particular family group - siblings 'Papa Meilland' and 'Oklahoma' and especially one of the parents 'Charles Mallerin', are very tall, sparsely foliated scarecrows in the garden. The other parent, 'Chrysler Imperial', is more compact and attractive as a garden specimen, but how wonderful are the blooms of all these roses?
I grow them together as a family group. They're a gawky and ungainly family, apart from "Chrysler Imperial' - prickly and sparse - but they don't ask for much and yet it's rare not to be able to go out there and inhale that perfect fragrance, or to gather a special bunch of fragrant red roses for a special friend or special occasion. I'd hate to be without them.
Reply #2 of 4 posted 25 JAN 15 by Give me caffeine
I've never actually seen the parent plants. I'll have to look them up.

Update (start of May 2015): I also threw in a baby Lincoln last year, just a few metres away, to keep the old beast company. It's been in the ground a bit under twelve months now, and was your basic hardware store body bag.

It's been behaving exactly as a baby Lincoln should, namely heading straight for the sky like a very spiky and enthusiastic rocket. Height is already up to 1.2 metres. Foliage is looking pretty good, despite hardly ever being sprayed and despite all the rain, heat and humidity over the past several months. In fact the only times I sprayed it was when I was trying to keep the !&#%! Meilland 'Peace' alive, and thought I might as well do the Lincolns too. It probably wouldn't have cared if I'd sprayed it with Roundup and nitric acid.

It's been looking so happy with itself that I haven't bothered debudding it in deference to its youth. It hasn't produced a lot of flowers yet, but the ones it has produced have been up to usual Lincoln standards.

Summary: they're still idiot-proof, even if you don't source them from the best nursery.
Reply #3 of 4 posted 22 JUL 15 by boopie
What does it mean to debud? Is there a special technique? I see this term used alot, and I assume it has to do with flower production and a type of prunning?
Reply #4 of 4 posted 22 JUL 15 by Give me caffeine
In this context it means knocking the flowers buds off a young plant, so it puts energy into growth rather than flowering. Gets it off to a good start, so to speak.

Can also be used to produce bigger flowers, but fewer of them, on established plants. The same trick is also used on fruit trees sometimes, giving fewer fruit, but bigger ones.
Discussion id : 80-553
most recent 18 SEP 14 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 17 SEP 14 by Jay-Jay
Has anyone seen Mr. Lincoln behaving like this before?
Reply #1 of 4 posted 17 SEP 14 by Margaret Furness
Dishonest Abe?
Reply #2 of 4 posted 18 SEP 14 by Jay-Jay
What do You mean by that Margaret?
Reply #3 of 4 posted 18 SEP 14 by Margaret Furness
Sorry, it was a feeble joke. Abraham Lincoln was known in his time as "Honest Abe" (I wish we could say the same of many politicians now): but in your photo Mr Lincoln was showing a different and unknown side of himself!
Reply #4 of 4 posted 18 SEP 14 by Jay-Jay
I knew the abbr. for Abraham, but didn't make the connection with MISTER Lincoln.
And I didn't know about the supplement HONEST.
Thank You for the info and the joke.
Discussion id : 76-822
most recent 14 MAR 14 SHOW ALL
Initial post 20 FEB 14 by Slave to the garden
I find protecting it in a flower garden or perennial garden and some shade , it is the most beautiful red rose in my garden. Thick petals, last on plant for a long time and are long stemmed. The bush took a few years to become what it is now, a huge tall strong gorgeous red. A must for any rose garden.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 20 FEB 14 by HMF Admin
Thank you for taking the time to share your experience with the HMF community - that's what HMF is all about.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 14 MAR 14 by Slave to the garden
Your welcome, the site is wonderful and so informative. After gardening and being a avid Rosarian for over 35 years, you learn one thing early on, every time you walk In the garden it is a lesson. And sharing that knowledge is what it is all about.
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