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'Rosa centifolia andrewsii' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 56-456
most recent 5 APR 22 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 2 AUG 11 by Hardy
I wonder, is this different from Single Moss Rose, other than the language used for its name? The Single Moss Rose was supposed to have originated in England, and was named in English, but references to this rose, in French and Latin, begin a couple of years after Waterloo. Perhaps French vendors just de-anglicized it a little?
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 7 AUG 11 by jedmar
You are completely right. Further research has shown that different authors have used one or the other of the names. The two entries have now been merged. Thank you for the hint!
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 5 APR 22 by CybeRose
This may be relevant:
Gentleman's Magazine, 81: 479 (Nov 1811)
"Thursday, Nov. 14: Curious plants, to the amount of 700l. value, have been lately shipped at Portsmouth for the ci-devant Empress Josephine. They are the produce of a nursery garden at Hammersmith; from which she also got a supply in 1803, to the amount of 2600l."

Despite Napoleon's rampage, roses were being transported across the English Channel ... presumably in both directions. I doubt that John Kennedy, the nurseryman who accompanied the shipment, would return home empty handed.
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Discussion id : 130-866
most recent 26 DEC 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 26 DEC 21 by CybeRose
J. Amer. Soc. Hort. Sci. 131(1): 66-73 (2006)
Characterization and Genetic Relationships of Wild Species and Old Garden Roses Based on Microsatellite Analysis
Valentina Scariot, Aziz Akkak, and Roberto Botto
Two cases of uncertain attribution to these sections were examined: 'Andrewsii', considered belonging either to the section Pimpinellifoliae (Beals, 1985) or to the section Rosa, Moss group (Beales et al., 1998), was genetically closer to Pimpinellifoliae; ...

The Rose-Amateur's Guide (1843) pp.102-103
Thomas Rivers
About four years since, in a pan of seedling Moss Roses, was one with a most peculiar habit, even when very young; this has since proved a hybrid rose, partaking much more of the Scotch Rose than of any other, and till the plant arrived at full growth I thought it a Scotch Rose, the seed of which had by accident been mixed with that of the Moss Rose, although I had taken extreme care: to my surprise it has since proved a perfect hybrid, having the sepals and the fruit of the Provence Rose, with the spiny and dwarf habit of the Scotch Rose; it bears abundance of hips, which are all abortive.* The difference in the fruit of the Moss and Provence Roses and that of the Scotch is very remarkable, and this it was which drew my particular attention to the plant in question; it was raised from the same seed, and in the same seed-pan, as the Single Crimson Moss Rose: as this strange hybrid came from a Moss Rose accidentally fertilised, we may expect that art will do much more for us.

Maybe this 'Andrewsii' is a hybrid rather than a sport.
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Discussion id : 34-185
most recent 19 OCT 15 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 24 FEB 09 by Brittas Little Rosegarden
Hi,
Concerning the 'Buy From' of the Andrewsii (mucosa):
Peter Beales only has the Pimpinellifolia on offer, not the Mucosa. May be this should be cleared.

Thank you!
With Kind regards,
Britta
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 25 FEB 09 by Cass
Thank you, Britta.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 19 OCT 15 by Wilhelm
Well, three years ago I ordered an Andrewsii pimpinellifolia from Beales via Schmid Gartenpflanzen in Germany and got an Andrewsii that is definitely not a pimpinellifolia but a moss rose. It has a very lively pink, so I kept it against the northern wall of my house.
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