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'Angel Face' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 71-249
most recent 24 MAY SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 27 APR 13 by Gascogne
I love this rose...it was a donation by a neighbor...and at the time, I was like, "no thanks...I do not like mauve" and did not want a spindly looking thing from a bigbox store. I put it in a less than ideal spot in partial shade. It has been a superior performer...in EVERY way....and gotten quite big. Yes, a touch of BSpot every now and then, but it is vigourous, shade , heat and cold tolerant, fabulously fragrant,, great and all of this along with excellent form. So Great, I bought another, as well as it's child, Royal Amethyst.
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 23 MAY by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Thank you for the info. about partial shade. My last Angel Face was in full-sun, and it had much less petals.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 23 MAY by Lavenderlace
Straw, I've read a lot of reports that AF can take shade from all across the country. I put all of mine in full sun though because I heard so much about BS and thought that it might help. So far, so good in fast draining sandy soil.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 24 MAY by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Lavenderlace: The ones with blackspot reputation: Heirloom, Angel Face, Barbra Streisand do best in FAST draining alkaline soil. My Heirloom (grafted on Dr.Huey) is 100% healthy in a fast-draining loamy mix of clay & humus (next to the tree), so it never get water-logged, even if we get tons of rain. I spent 1 hour digging that hole down past 2 feet, to make sure water can drain fast.

If there's a bed of rocks, or dense clay at the bottom to block drainage, the BS-fest roses won't like it. I used husband's electrical drill to punch at least a dozen holes in the pot for Barbra Streisand, so far zero blackspot in this week-long rain. In contrast, Blue girl (grafted-on-Dr.Huey) needs more moisture .. I thought it died this winter, but after tons of rain, it sprout healthy canes. Waterhogs like Bluegirl prefer a bed of dense clay at bottom to retain water, same with French Meilland, or Romantica roses.

There's a spot in my garden with thick & sticky dense clay at bottom. I planted a Knock-out (grafted on Dr.Huey) and it HATED that, lost lowest leaves due to poor-drainage. So I planted OWN-ROOT French Meilland rose, Sweet Promise (with dark green & glossy foliage) .. it loves that dense clay & wet spot, leaves became so shiny .. but I had to keep the pH near 8. Anything standing in acidic rain water will break out in blackspot, so I constantly limed that wet spot to keep Sweet Promise healthy. I did a bunch of experiments in the vase with cut flowers: Pink Peace leaves broke out in blackspot if soaked in a vase of acidic rain water for a few days, but if I put pea-gravel or use my alkaline tap water (pH 9), leaves stay healthy, even if the stems are in the vase for a few days.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 24 MAY by Lavenderlace
I love to hear about your experiments, THANK YOU Straw!
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Discussion id : 81-086
most recent 23 MAY SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 16 OCT 14 by steve fritz
Interesting rose, Mine grew to about 4 foot high and 4 feet tall in eastern North Carolina. The fragrance was strong and pervasive, but many complained it smelled like strong laundry detergent. This was the same complaint I got about the fragrance of White Dawn.

The rose was a black spot magnet. And the few seeds I attained from its breeding were unimpressive. However it substance and the strength of its perfume keep bringing it to our attention.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 23 MAY by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Agree about the scent, Barbra Streisand has a better scent than Angel Face, and much more vigorous as own-root. Angel Face was really tiny as own-root in my zone 5a, and didn't survive its 1st winter. Grafted Angel Face was more vigorous (I grew both).
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Discussion id : 70-888
most recent 6 APR 13 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 6 APR 13 by goncmg
HUGE strides have been made in the purple/lavender field but this one really stands out, almost 50 years after introduction. The substance of the petal is amazing, the scent is so strong...............the ruffled bloom shape is endearing, the bloom production high. All of this was actually "landmark" in 1969 when this won AARS and absolutely this one has a huge personality per the good listed above and the bad listed here: it WILL delfoliate from blackspot even in a not-so-humid climate and also has a growth manner that is just odd: it tends to, if grown budded, seem to choose one side of the bud union from which to thrive and one side from which to fail amounting to a lop-sided plant no matter what climate you live in. It is a strong "personality" and one once met and enjoyed a lot of growers would not be without..................
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Discussion id : 63-223
most recent 3 APR 12 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 3 APR 12 by bungalow1056
James Alexander Gamble Fragrance Medal Winner: 2001

Each spring when Angel Face leafs out then sets buds, I know it's only a matter of time until she martyrs herself to blackspot. I have to treat her aggressively and sometimes wonder why I keep her around. Then the buds open and the richest, citrus rose aroma exudes from gorgeous lavender pink blooms, almost knocks me over and then I remember why I make the effort.

If you live in a humid climate, rest assured, Angel Face will pick up blackspot. Aggressive prevention and control measures will likely be needed if you want the shrub to hold onto some decent foliage. But she generally just keeps on blooming anyway. Sniff her blooms once and you'll probably decide you love her too.
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