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'Général Schablikine' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 108-587
most recent 30 APR SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 17 FEB 18 by HubertG
My huge bush is very prickly. I'm not sure why it is described as being thornless or nearly so.
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Reply #1 of 7 posted 17 FEB 18 by billy teabag
You are right! It is definitely well-armed.
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Reply #2 of 7 posted 18 FEB 18 by Patricia Routley
Probably because of the 1936 reference which said " few thick prickles".
Armature now corrected. Thanks to you both.
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Reply #3 of 7 posted 2 MAY 19 by Patricia Routley
I wonder what Peter Beales was selling under this name in the 1980’s. In four of his catalogues he said it was a useful shorter rose, 3 feet high x 2 feet wide.
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Reply #4 of 7 posted 2 MAY 19 by HubertG
I blame Peter Beales for my entirely inappropriate planting of 'General Schablikine' lol. I had bought his book and read the "shorter" reference and planted it at the front of a bed. It's now HUGE! I wish I had known back then how big it grows in our climate.
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Reply #5 of 7 posted 20 APR by Hamanasu
I wish my G. Schablikine in England had grown as tall as 3'! If Beales' plant ever grew to that height in England he was very lucky, and it must be because everything is grafted over here. My own-root plant (imported from Italy, identity indisputable) has never grown to even half that size in England. In fact, it's been growing backwards. Floriferous and always the first to bloom in the first couple of years after import (perhaps it had stored enough energy in Liguria's climate to keep going for that long once relocated to Old Blighty) it has now ben pretty much flowerless and refusing to put out any decent growth for the last 3 years or so. I almost disposed of it today, but then I saw some new roots, so I will give it a few more months... and then out it goes if things don't improve. I think the General simply hates England's long cool (cold) springs and is less than impressed by her short cool summers. Considering that in warmer countries this is a winter bloomer, you'd think it would do well in an English spring; my conclusion is that a Liguria winter must be milder than an English spring.
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Reply #6 of 7 posted 30 APR by HubertG
Hamanasu, it's worth persisting with in my opinion. Teas often don't do a lot in the first couple of years even in a warm climate and then really take off at some point, so perhaps yours is just a bit slower to establish because of the climate. Maybe give it some foliar liquid fertiliser. In my location in Sydney I find 'General Schablikine' has it's best flowers and fragrance in winter, so it should be rewarding for you to persist with it a little longer. This rose has become one of my favourites.

My bush did get huge and because it was also near a fence that had to be replaced I was forced to hard-prune it. I was a bit hesitant at first because I didn't want to be so harsh as to it to lose it, but I always remembered what Alister Clark had written about his bushes of 'General Schablikine', namely that his wife insisted they be pruned back hard; he did, and they bounced back well. I hard-pruned only about half my bush - just the essential part near the fence - and before long it put out strong new growth. I'm confident that the rest can be pruned back hard later on when I have time.
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Reply #7 of 7 posted 30 APR by Hamanasu
Thank you for this encouraging information. I do love this rose, with its unusual flower shape and unique scent. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this summer it will do something. Nearly all my other teas have put out flower buds and should bloom within a month. The General, alas, is stalling.
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Discussion id : 117-064
most recent 7 JUN 19 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 6 JUN 19 by drogers
After reading some of the references I question whether the inclusion of Zone 6b is appropriate or if it might do well in a colder zone.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 7 JUN 19 by jedmar
Generally Tea Roses do best in Zone 8 and higher, in Zones 7a and 7b in favourable microclimate situations. Zone 6b is definitely exceptional, but they can survive with care and protection.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 7 JUN 19 by Andrew from Dolton
Try 'Archiduc Charles' it's loving the cool wet summers we get in the UK
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Discussion id : 117-047
most recent 3 JUN 19 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 3 JUN 19 by Hamanasu
The scent on this rose is a mouth-watering mix of tea and fruit.
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Discussion id : 94-623
most recent 29 AUG 16 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 29 AUG 16 by Margaret Furness
Evergreen in zone 9b.
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