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"Hurdalsrosa" rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 91-820
most recent 8 APR 16 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 30 MAR 16 by Jukka K
This rose is hardy in Southern and Central Finland, to USDA4. Thornless, stiff shoots, can be used as a climber in cold climates.
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 31 MAR 16 by Patricia Routley
Is "Hurdal" different from "Mustialan Ruusu" syn 'Minette'?
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 31 MAR 16 by Jukka K
Patricia,
Yes, it is absolutely a different rose. Mustialanruusu/Minette is quite widely grown in Southern Finland, a low-growing, thorny bush with blush flowers that are notoriously sensitive to rain. To my knowledge Hurdal has become available in Finland much later.
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 8 APR 16 by Raynyk
According to Lars-Åke Gustavsson (the first president of the Swedish Rose Society and author of many rose books) 'Hurdal' shows some similarities with Rosa villosa ssp. villosa and Rosa villosa 'Duplex'.
It's not investigated further that I know, but might be worth a note anyway.
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 8 APR 16 by jedmar
Thank you, we have added your comment to the Notes. The tradition that this rose originated in the Giessen area in Germany in the 1800s might point to it being a cultivar of Schwarzkopf in Weissenstein/Kassel (not far from Giessen)
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 31 MAR 16 by Nastarana
This is an alba which, along with Ferox, has disappeared from commerce in North America. Ferox at one time lived at Ashdown, but must never have arrived at Rogue Valley Roses, when that nursery bought Ashdown's stock, because RVR has never offered it for sale nor ever even admitted having it at all.

Hurdal, the world's largest alba, was I believe, imported by Cliff Orent for his High Desert garden. When his stock went to Vintage Gardens and then on to Heirloom, Hurdal seems to have departed from North America forever.

There are not enough rose growers, alas, that we can force Congress, and through them the USDA, to let us import roses from any countries other than Belgium and France.
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Discussion id : 23-208
most recent 26 DEC 07 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 25 DEC 07 by Alf E. Andresen
This is probably a hybrid villosa, not an alba.

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pics.php?l=2.3349.1&qs=-81781
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pics.php?l=2.3349.1&nr=81782

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Alf
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 25 DEC 07 by Cass
Thanks, Alf, and Merry Christmas.

This rose blooms only once, I assume? What is the meaning of the name, Hurdalsrose?
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 26 DEC 07 by Alf E. Andresen
Merry Christmas!
Yes, this is a once-blooming rose. It becomes big (3m/10ft) and carries hundreds of flowers, usually at the end of June here in Western Norway.
As Dag Lyngar states in his note at the main page, the rose was found in Hurdal (north of Oslo, Norway). It is believed that it came from Giessen in Germany, and is sometimes called "Giessenrose".
Some information in the database at the Botanical garden at University of Bergen (in Norwegian):
http://arboha.uib.no/sok/index.php?inc=vis_hele.php&id=03581
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