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Discussion id : 110-740
most recent 16 FEB 19 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 14 MAY 18 by wbellido
Unfortunately my Hot Cocoa didn't survive a drought. This year a very vigorous (not Hot Cocoa) orange/red rose has come up from the root system. It doesn't have the scent that Hot Cocoa did. It isn't as dark red as Hot Cocoa. What could it be? It is blooming vigorously with very long very thorny stem-shoots and clusters of roses from the very top of the shoots. My original Hot Cocoa came from the Antique Rose Emporium.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 14 MAY 18 by Give me caffeine
Dr. Huey? That sprouts like crazy and makes long whippy canes. It's also near to indestructible.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 15 MAY 18 by wbellido
Thanks, after reading about the use of Dr. Huey as root stock and its tendency to take over I think you're likely correct. My rose looks slightly less red as the photos of Dr. Huey, but not by much.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 16 FEB 19 by Grim (Claw and Thorn)
Antique Rose Emporium grows own-root roses.
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Discussion id : 105-357
most recent 6 SEP 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 6 SEP 17 by BarbaraG SE Virginia
Available from - Antique Rose Emporium
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Discussion id : 95-560
most recent 18 AUG 17 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 25 OCT 16
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 17 AUG 17 by mamabotanica
Shoot. I'm also in So Cal and really love the pictures of this rose. It says it's a moderate size (4 x 4 I think) What is "too huge" in your book? It grew a lot bigger than that in your garden? and what exposure did you give it?
Thanks,
Joan
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 18 AUG 17 by dan8
This rose grew 7' at my sisters house.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 18 AUG 17 by mamabotanica
good to know! That's a lot bigger than the space I have for it. Will skip it and indulge in a different one.
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Reply #4 of 3 posted 18 AUG 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Check out Geranium Red, much nicer color, better scent & 1/3 the size & very small as own-root. I had seen dozen of Hot Cocoa at local rose park in full-sun, and the color is hard on the eyes, zero scent. Geranium Red lasts long in the vase & can take hot sun & the scent is just as good as Munstead Wood. California & Texas folks raved about Geranium Red, and that's also perfect for my cold zone.
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Discussion id : 92-175
most recent 29 JUN 17 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 16 APR 16 by raingreen
Does show some foliage necrosis (leaf scorch) after 100+ hot spells in soCal, I wouldn't call it "heat tolerant" because of that. Magnificent spring flush, a classic.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 28 JUN 17 by mamabotanica
Any idea how well it does as a cut flower? Sure looks lovely and the descriptions of scent have me intrigued. I see above someone saying it got huge though. Did you find that to be true?
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 29 JUN 17 by raingreen
It's at my parent's house but I can't say that I've picked any flowers for an arrangement. At their house, it is a large, thorny, 'cast iron' shrub. The heat tolerance is ok, not great, IME. With no care except deadheading and winter pruning, it has an excellent first flush with intermittent, fewer blooms the rest of the year. ?Maybe it needs summer pruning too?? Or maybe it actually does need some fertilizer :-). Excellent, chunky garden shrub.

Nate
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