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"Benny Lopez" rose Reviews & Comments
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Copying today’s comments from Photos
Initial post yesterday by HMF supporting memberjedmar
What does the hip tell us? The stalk and the elongated shape of the hip says there is Damask involved, but only in the ancestors as the hip itself is smooth. A Hybrid China or Hybrid Perpetual therefore. Has anyone a picture of a hip of 'Ardoisée de Lyon' which seems to be contender for this mystery rose?
Reply #1 of 2 posted today by HMF supporting memberPatricia Routley
Photos from Mashamcl show that
‘Ardoisée de Lyon' has a pip (or pointel), and almost entire sepals.
“Benny Lopez” has a button eye, and leafy sepals.
For members in America:
I wonder if the description page for “Benny Lopez” should be slightly altered to:
Bloom... rounded outline. Button eye seems to be freed up in later life.
Pedicel .... prickly below the smooth, long and sloping receptacle.
Sepals.....can be long and leafy sometimes and are retained in old age.
Foliage... ? Jeri says shiny, Mashamcl says more matte (than Ardoisee...)
There seems to be a red tint to the new leaf’s deeply serrated edge.
Prickles ....many, almost straight, mostly horizontal.
Bush....does not sucker
Reply #2 of 2 posted today by HMF supporting memberNastarana
My bush does not sucker, but it lives in damp, heavy soil.
Thanks Nastarana. I note that Ingrid ‘s (Oregon) photo caption says “sucker from original plant”.
More information from more members is needed.
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14 NOV 18 by
 jedmar
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Yes, sepals are quite different - so clearly not 'Ardoisée de Lyon'.
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In the HMF description of this rose, I see that they say "Feed this rose well". This rather confuses me: it's a Found Rose, after all, which gives the idea that it does fine with little fuss. Am I misssing something? Can anyone throw any light on this question?
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24 SEP 18 by
AquaEyes
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In general, most Hybrid Perpetuals with heavy Damask Perpetual ancestry (as opposed to those more Bourbon-like, and the later ones with more Tea in them) do need to be "fed well" in order to keep "blooming well", but will "live well" just fine without. From what I've come to learn after growing them, they bloom when "late Spring conditions" -- milder weather, and an influx of water and nutrients -- trigger new growth. A prune after flowering helps as well. In the meantime, they hang in there and survive just fine once established, even if they don't bloom.
:-)
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29 DEC 17 by
Unregistered Guest
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Available from - Burlington Rose Nursery
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15 DEC 11 by
Tessie
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This rose produces very beautiful, highly-fragrant flowers. However, it gets a lot of rust in my garden.
Melissa
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That's great feedback about the rose, Melissa (or is it Tessie?). It's sad to hear that it rusts for you though. Where do you live and in what CZ? Other information about its siting, whether you spray or not, etc. would be helpful for others since this rose is still a "mystery" rose with no history yet on how it performs in gardens in different parts of the country. Thanks for sharing your information!
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Benny Lopez frequently reminds me of Phil's Hot Pink Perpetual, particularly the rust part. Take a look at these.
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.18923
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.7066
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.18924
You can see how they can resemble each other, making written descriptions very difficult to use to differentiate between similar roses.
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