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Discussion id : 97-481
most recent 16 FEB 17 SHOW ALL
Initial post 12 FEB 17 by JasonSims1984
I wonder why this rose hasn't been used in hybridizing very much. Those glossy leaves clearly offer some potential. Rugosa x laevigata ought to be a no brainer for a disease resistant and climate adapted line.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 15 FEB 17 by Salix
People have tried! It does not cross easily.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 16 FEB 17 by JasonSims1984
I see. Do its descendents have the same problem? Is it being used in tet crosses or dip? I kind of feel like creating a diploid line of roses could be a very profitable venture. Reinvent the hybrid tea as a diploid.

Hollandica looks kind of promising as a starting point.

(Moschata x Chinensis) x Rugosa.

Gigantea and chinensis are dip. It just needs the appropriate tea to get the right flower form. If no one else has done it, I certainly will.
Discussion id : 94-606
most recent 28 AUG 16 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 28 AUG 16 by CybeRose
Journal of the Royal Horticultural Society 27: 507-509 (1902/3)
Notes on Chinese Roses

The third Chinese species of this group [Banksianae] is the so-called 'Cherokee' Rose, R. laevigata; this frequently proved tender and flowered sparingly in the neighbourhood of London, but of recent years stocks have been received from Japanese sources which prove hardier and more floriferous than those—probably of Chinese origin—previously in cultivation.
Discussion id : 94-381
most recent 12 AUG 16 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 12 AUG 16 by CybeRose
The American Farmer 7(4): 28 (April 15, 1825)
The Cherokee Rose
[Of the thousands of cuttings of the Cherokee Rose of South Carolina, distributed gratuitously, by Mr. Rowan, we have very few reports. We had the pleasure to see it growing most luxuriantly at Plimhimmon, in Talbot county, in October last, on a rich and rather moist spot of ground. We were highly gratified with its appearance of health and prospect of continued vigorous growth. The branches were very long, and seemed to have grown very rapidly, but inclined to spread on the ground.

It is due to Mr. Rowan, and will be acceptable to the public to publish even the following brief notice of the success of these plants, being all we have received, and this not being intended for publication. the writer's name is omitted.]

Mr. Wm. H. Tilghman, who is particularly attentive to whatever he undertakes, has growing a very beautiful hedge, on the north side of his garden, composed of a row of cedars and a line of Cherokees one foot from them on their south front. The long arms of the *nondescript* have certainly manifested a fondness for embracing and entwining the branches of the cedars, and the combination of these two beautiful evergreens is rapidly forming a very ornamental enclosure.

You probably observed that though the growth you saw was vigorous, many of the arms having flung off 6, 8, and 10 feet, they evidenced a disposition to trail too much, and are too low yet for a good fence. This idea of a middle line of cedars with a guard row of Cherokees on both sides, if the Cherokees can be prevented from strangling the cedars to death, may be useful. The cedars will give support to the rose, and the requisite height to the fence; the strong thorns of the roses would completely guard the cedars, and the combination form an impervious, most useful, and beautiful hedge.
Discussion id : 94-363
most recent 10 AUG 16 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 10 AUG 16 by CybeRose
Catalogus Plantarum Horti Botanici Monspeliensis, p. 137 (1813)
By Augustin Pyramus de Candolle, Université de Montpellier Hortus Botanicus

(181) Rosa nivea. R. calycum tubis ovatis subhispidis, pedunculo glabriusculo foliis breviore solitario, foliolus ovali-lanceolatis tri- rarius 5-foliolatis lucidis perennantibus subtus petiolisque aculeatis, foliis in apice ramulorum sub flore congestis. ? Hab. in India aut China et in hortis occurrit sub nominibus Rosae sinicae seu Rosae trifoliae. Differt a R. diversifolia (quae semperflorens Curt.) floribus majoribus niveis nec purpurascentibus, pedicellis duplo brevioribus, calycum tubis setas raras longasque gerentibus, habitu humiliori, frondescentia nitida equidem sed subvlavescente, foliis saepissime trifoliolatis supremis aggregatis, infra florem suboppositis. Semper vidi flores simplices nec unquam duplicatos. Nostra videtur eadem ac Rosa macartnea, Dum. Cours. bot. cult. ed. 1. vol. 3. p. 351., quam immerito cl. Persoon et ipse cel. Dumont-Courset ad R. bracteatam retulerunt, etiamsi posterior olim dixisset de Rosa sua macartnea ramos glabros et flores albos.
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