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'Baronne Henriette Snoy' rose Reviews & Comments
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Quite a good crop of hips this winter. I cut open 8 and got one seed worth planting: the first I've seen from this rose. Not betting much on the outcome.
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I'm pretty shocked this rose doesn't have any known descendants.
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Not an easy one for bees to access. The half-dozen green hips I've just cut open didn't have any seeds that looked viable; maybe Mme la Baronne is another one prone to phantom pregnancy, like (rose sold as) Mme Berkeley and Auguste Comte. Would it be worth trying to cross it with / to Lady Hillingdon, on the assumption that it may have difficult ploidy?
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Where there is a will, there's a way. I have found pollen in the most tricky blooms. Lullaby is a great example. I have sat for an hour or two each summer picking out a kernel of pollen from 50 or so blooms, so I would have enough to pollinate maybe 5 blooms on another rose. Most blooms produce none. A few blooms produce about 3 small grains. They produce ZERO if its cool or wet. But it was possible in time.
I mentioned this rose, because this lineage seems to have a high rate of passing on good BS resistance, and, well, the blooms are gorgeous, especially for its time.
I think an enterprising hybridizer could utilize a rose like this. The hardiness and habit would have to be improved or changed (like, changes the way Cecile Brunner became, for example), but I think its a line worth noting.
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My (small number of) crosses between Baronne HS and Lady Hillingdon, in either direction, all failed.
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Modern Roses 12 shows this registered as 'Baronne Henriette de Snoy' with an exhibition name of Baronne Henriette de Snoy.
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The breeder named it 'Baronne Henriette Snoy'. I'm not sure how the 'de' crept into the name - it has been suggested that it was originally a simple copyist's typo - 'Baronne Henriette de Loew' often appearing just before 'Baronne Henriette Snoy' in early lists. The mistake has been perpetuated in many books and nursery lists and garden labels. Strictly speaking, 'Baronne Henriette de Snoy' is an incorrect name, but its use is so widespread it has become a synonym. I hope Modern Roses will include the original name in future editions.
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25 MAY 16 by
drogers
Thank you for the clarification.
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Initial post
3 NOV 06 by
Unregistered Guest
I planted this rose in March of 2006 in Orange County California. It grows big, great foliage here, blooms a lot, a wonderful rose. The blooms on the plant here do not nod, and are superb in a vase. They are also large, and, to my nose, fragrant. I would highly recommend this rose to anyone in a climate that would allow it, and with plenty of room.
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