|
|
One or more site guests believe this photo is incorrectly labeled or inaccurate !
-
-
|
I realize roses can vary greatly from one climate to another, but everything about this flower is very "off" for I Zingari. I am personally very intimate with I Zingari. I collected it from Rose Hills in California and distributed it to California nurseries to get it back into commerce back in the early 1990s. This flower has a completely wrong flower shape; too many petals of the wrong shape; with far too much bluish-pink. The previous photos posted by Singularly Beautiful Roses are of the correct rose.
|
REPLY
|
Reply
#1 of 5 posted
23 AUG 13 by
cornelia
|
Cette rose m'a été envoyée par Winterliesel, qui elle même l'a fait venir de Sangerhausen...
Elle même possède la même qui est issue de la même souche.
C'est vrai que la forme est un peu ronde et ne correspond pas complètement à la description de "semi-double". La couleur me semble correcte, en août toutes les roses ici ont un coloris plus soutenu.
Par ailleurs, les épines sont rouges vif et le feuillage vert foncé. Il est donc très difficile d'être certain de l'identité de cette rose qui nous a été adressée sous le nom de I Zingary.
Il est très compliqué d'importer des roses des Etats-Unis en Suisse, mais si vous voulez m'aider à obtenir les dernières roses de Pemberton qui manquent encore à ma collection, ce serait avec grande joie ! (actuellement il me manque encore Sammy, et le "vrai" I Zingary !)
Avec mes cordiaux messages
|
REPLY
|
|
HI Cornelia, I understand. The rose in question is definitely not one which even slightly resembles I Zingari in the US. Unfortunately, I no longer grow the rose. With the increasing water prices and restrictions, I limit myself to those I wish to use for my own rose breeding and the seedlings I create. I have previously been able to get wood to Bierkreek in The Netherlands, but I don't know how their import restrictions may have changed in the past year since my last shipment.
Unfortunately, it appears I Zingari may be rapidly slipping back into obscurity here in the US, also. Of the three gardens listed as growing it, one is no longer active as I believe the person is deceased. The second is tenuous, at best, and the final is the San Jose Heritage Rose Garden which still lists it as growing there. The only US source is ceasing operations and no longer has the rose available for sale. I wish I could be of more help. I simply don't have access to I Zingari any more. It was long ago removed from the Rose Hills Rose Garden when Dr. Tommy Cairns created his Rose Hills Rose Trials. All of the historic plantings were destroyed to make room for his trials.
|
REPLY
|
Reply
#3 of 5 posted
25 AUG 13 by
cornelia
|
Merci beaucoup pour toutes ces précisions très interessantes !
Je vais donc retirer mes photos -
J'ai malgré tout commandé I Zingary chez 16-Eichen en Allemagne, mais disponible en 2015 ! je pourrais alors les comparer réellement.
Cordialement
|
REPLY
|
|
You're welcome Cornelia. Contact 16eichen to inquire what the source of their I Zingari is. If they received theirs from Sangerhausen, you have already compared it. Why waste the time, money and room? I am attempting to track down bud wood of the I Zingari here in the US. If I can get it started, I will investigate what is required to get it into Bierkreek, if they are interested.
|
REPLY
|
Reply
#5 of 5 posted
25 AUG 13 by
cornelia
|
Wouah! c'est une magnifique nouvelle !
( 16-Eichen m'a confirmé que leur rose vient de Sangerhausen Toutefois, leur photo correspond bien à la description de "semi-double", ainsi qu'au coloris)
Tout cela est très passionnant et j'espère vivement que ces démarches vont aboutir !
Merci pour cette magnifique aide à continuer de faire vivre les rosiers du Révérend Pemberton !
Bien cordialement
|
REPLY
|
|
