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Nice! I always wanted to see more shots of this rose. Its too bad it never had a formal release :[ I like it.
'All That Jazz' is a rather bizarre rose. Here, it is essentially a darker-colored, grandiflora version of 'Livin Easy'. I have no clue how it got a shrub title. It grows straight UP. Recalling a 1990s ARS Magazine with its hybridizer, it descends from Silver Jubilee and one of the apricot-orange Kordes HTs. Not quite shrub material. In the state north of us, Washington, it gets really bad tip damage. The wood is thin, but the plant bounces right back in spring. ITs is highly vigorous. I have 'All The Rage', which is a true shrub, that seems to have overcome a lot of the misgivings of 'All That Jazz'.
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 goncmg
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Hi Michael---I love your comments! For a rose that was never distributed and was never patented and is 15 years old, it has a respectable number of "likes" on here and it does interest people such as Kim Rupert!! I never heard of it until Dianne Wiley scored it at the Huntington auction in 2013 at the urging of John Bagnasco and Dianne knows colors like this "ring my bell" and she had it budded for me last year (my plant is a "lusty maiden" !!). What amazes me MOST about this one is the parentage--very improbable, looks like something a "home hybridizer" such as me would slap together. Outside of 'Portrait' I cannot think of ANY cultivar that is such a basic, such a literal, such a literal with all the good qualities melding of both parents. As you I am sure know, so many times a cross is made and WOMP WAHHH. The seedlings all seem to take after the grandparents or the great-grandparents or beyond and not even in good ways! (side talk: I did, in the early 90's, do Olympiad x Gingersnap and got a LITERAL. But you know where I am going...oh yes, the color was like Cancun...but yes, the seedlings all emerged from the shell with blackspot as would be literal with those parents, lol).....as for All That Jazz, was it classed as a FL when it won AARS? I THINK so??? I, too, hate the assignation "SHRUB." I mean, what IS that??? They are ALL "shrubs!!!!!" And I know, rose classes are so random and so ill-defined. So many straddle so many classes I guess ya gotta pick ONE, lol: Buccaneer, Matterhorn, for that matter Folklore, Uncle Walter---is it a climber? Is it a shrub? The fact it blooms on 9 foot stems one single bloom, an HT? Joseph's Coat and Pinata are really just big, messy floribundas? And if we are going to hang on to Grandiflora--which I take to mean "bigger than average plant with somewhat small bloom for plant size and blooms may come as often on a single stem as clusters and never in big clusters" (which does describe Assignee Zero, The Queen, to a "t") the yes, All That Jazz would be a GR. As would (and as was assigned in the mid-70's and then reassigned back) Granada and Sterling Silver and Gay Princess and from what I ever experienced, AMERICA. And EARTH SONG! Another one that is a SHRUB or a GR! (side talk: FIRST PRIZE! I mean, that baby clusterssssss but the size of the bloom? Again, they all straddle so many).....back to Cancun: for me it has super weak necks but if you could "fix" that it could likely be exhibited. The stem which holds the bloom I just photo'd is being sent off so someone can bud it for themselves...I have a few smaller stems with blooms, too----if you get this message in time, if it is possible to bud in November-ish in Oregon and if you DO bud, I would be happy to send you the material......
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Patented under the Modern Shrub class. Gitte x Silver Jubilee, although the pollen parent wasn't released, except in an ARS magazine. The breeder used it a lot then, and made roses like Lloyd Center Supreme, American Honor, and Colorburst, with it. For all practical purposes, ATJ is really a "shrubby" grandiflora. It is kind of an odd duckling, but an easy rose to grow.
I don't need to grow Cancun, but I thank you for the thought. I just always wanted to see more of it.
Olympiad x Gingersnap. Conceptually, a good idea. Gingersnap, however, comes with far too many naughty qualities. You'll be happy to know that I have been experimenting with roses like 'Marina', in an attempt to breed in better healthy and less prickles, into those orange lines! A work in progress. I have some seedlings you would die for, but I cannot show pictures of them =[ 'Shadow Ninja' is your type of color, and there are pictures of it, but it is a semi-double. Cheers.
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