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'White New Dawn' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 34-297
most recent 27 FEB 09 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 27 FEB 09 byBlue Zinnia
I had a White Dawn for awhile against old, dark brick, with Single Gaiety pinks and sweet william around its feet. After a year or two to establish itself, it bloomed lavishly, looked fabulous and, at its peak, quite literally stopped traffic. I want another one to put in my community garden.

I don't think you can say New Dawn gives more bang for the buck than White Dawn in this climate (on the zones 5/6 line). I do think White Dawn may be one of those older roses with which one needs to avoid chemical fertilizers and use good ol' composted black cowpoop. That's what their breeders used, after all, and this trick has worked for me with other older roses.

Personally, I wouldn't prune it at all except to get rid of dead, diseased, seriously wimpy or badly damaged canes; it blooms on both old and new wood, but especially on old, which is why it takes a year or two to hit its stride.

Would any of you who have it be willing to part with cuttings? I could trade Cl. America, Kordes Perfecta
and/or The Fairy, or would pay a reasonable amount, plus postage. (Guess I also need to check the cuttings exchange, huh?)
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Discussion id : 18-269
most recent 29 APR 07 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 26 APR 07 bykdcvirgo30
I just bought a new plant of this White Dawn climbing rose variety. (my middle name happens to be Dawn) . I live in OHIO. This is my first rose ever to plant. Any tips? how & what should I do with it? does it need fertilizer? should I plant it now? so many questions ----so any & all advice would be greatly appriciated! thanks!
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 26 APR 07 by Unregistered Guest
If it is a dormant bareroot rose, dig a large hole, back fill a bit with compost and a bit of bonemeal, water hole, cover rose to approximately 2 inches above the root ball. Tap down soil as to make sure there is no air around root. Water well. Mound the soil right up over the tips of the canes and once the buds begain to break, remove the soil. Do not fertilize for two months after as it could burn the new roots. Fertilize once a month but last fertilizer should be a month before the first frost so canes have time to harden off before winter. Don't forget to deadhead the spent blooms to get new blooms. If you need help with deadheading and pruning, let me know.

If it is a potted rose, dig a hole larger than the pot the rose is in. Again back fill with a bit of compost and bonemeal, water and plant rose to the same depth as in the pot. Again the root ball should be under the soil. Water well and enjoy. Again wait to fertilize. You may notice the pot already has fertilizer in it and you don't want to overdue it and burn the roots.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 26 APR 07 byLyn G
We have a great article in our Ezine archives written by Wendy Christie about the basics of rose gardening called A Rose Garden for Everyone / Roses 101 (Dec 2005) and another by Kim Rupert The Lazy Person's Rose Culture (May 2005) that can answer many of your questions.

Just click on Ezine on the navigation bar to the left and click on the article's title. You'll find some good reading that can guide you on your new hobby.

Smiles,
Lyn
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 29 APR 07 bywordycat
I have grown Climbing White Dawn for several years. It is pretty and has gardenia like flowers, but from what I have read, New Dawn is the orginal,hardy, bang for your buck rose. White Dawn has nice glossy foliage and a neat growing habit. I live in No. California and it doesn't seem to bloom alot for me. After growing roses for over ten years, I just found out you should NOT fertilize new roses until after they have had their first bloom cycle. At that time they should recieve a water soluble fertilizer. From my experience, do not prune a new climber for the first few years. Everyone should have their namesake rose. Good Luck!
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Discussion id : 597
most recent 14 JUL 06 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 25 FEB 04 by Unregistered Guest
What is the best way to prune this climber?
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 25 FEB 04 by Anonymous-797
After it had finished its spring bloom, carefully trim back just the canes that are out of bounds, if you must. It is not necessary to prune this variety just for the sake of pruning it. Mine is about 14 feet high, but when it spreads over 6 feet wide, it encroaches on the basement door. So I use garden velcro tape to train the newer, flexible canes back the other way. I have never given it a serious pruning, just coax the newer, more flexible canes into growing through the existing trellis where they will not be in the way. If space is not an issue, you won't need to do any real pruning, just s bit of shaping to encourage it to take the form you want.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 14 JUL 06 by Unregistered Guest
I don't prunt my White Dawn either, except to cut back die back (here in Zone 5).  The canes are flexible (it's a Wichuriana climber) and can be trained to climb anywhere.  If you don't train it, it tends to grow horizontally (it's a procumbent) and that's good too.  I used to train my WhiteDawn up a trellis but each time it destroyed the trellis- it's very strong and likes to grow horizontally.  Now I just let it grow where it wants but it need the room, for sure!!  You don't need to prune it except to cut dead canes.
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Discussion id : 2-135
most recent 14 JUL 06 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 25 FEB 04 by Anonymous-797
Wonderfully vigorous and cold hardy in Eastern coastal zone 7b. One of the most disease resistant varieties I have found, out of approximately 170 different roses I grow (or have grown). Large, shiny, glossy, thick leaves, and gardenia like blooms. Takes a couple years to start really throwing blooms, but well worth it.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 7 MAR 06 byClaire
Hi, I would like to know if you consider White Dawn unusually prickly/thorny? It's hard to tell from the photos. I would like to grow it up the side of my house, but the driveway is right next to it, and I wouldn't like it to be a deterrent to people and cars. I am intending on putting Kathleen Harrop, a soft pink thornless Bourbon, on one area next to the drive, and was considering planting White Dawn on the other. What is your opinion of White Dawn's prickles/thorns? Thanks, Claire, St Louis Missouri Zone 5/6
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 16 MAR 06 by Unregistered Guest
I have one that is 4 years old, tha older thicker canes have few thorns which I have removed but the new growth has few thorns, similar to golden showers.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 14 JUL 06 by Unregistered Guest

I have White Dawn (and Pink Dawn) here in Zone 5 and it's very vigorous and yes it is thorny but not more thorny than any other rose I would think.  It is spectacular in full bloom.  Couple years ago we had a very cold winter and the rose lost half its canes.  I cut the dieback out thinking the rose would never really recover with just half the amount, but it FULLY recovered!!!  You would never know it lost anything!  It's a big, big bush - likes to grow horizontally and also up.  It also has red hips in the Fall.  The fragrance is strong and beautiful.  This is a wonderful rose - you will love it.!!!

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