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'The New Dawn' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 126-350
most recent 11 MAR 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 11 MAR 21 by ParisRoseLady
Available from - Stargazer Perennials
www.stargazerperennials.com
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Discussion id : 29-736
most recent 10 JAN 19 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 12 AUG 08 by Unregistered Guest
'New Dawn' is a rose I have selected--due to its color, significance of name, and the fact that it probably would have been available to the lay gardener in the early 1950's--to be included in a story I am writing. For Zone 7 in Alabama, does anyone know where this rose could have been purchased? (I am guessing through a mail-order catalog.) Also, I am looking for a popular public place (i.e. famous rose garden) in the south or on the east coast where it might have been grown and available for viewing. I need to be historically accurate, and I would appreciate any information. Thank you.
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 12 AUG 08 by Patricia Routley
Roy Hennessey in Scappoose, Oregon carried 'New Dawn' in his 1954-55 catalogue and he used to ship by mail order. Actually you could write a whole book about Roy and his catalogues.
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 13 AUG 08 by RoseBlush
Wasn't Hennessey great ? I would have loved to have known him.
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 13 AUG 08 by RoseBlush
There are several tabs at the top of each rose page. You might want to look at the REFERENCES tab, the COMMENTS tab, the GARDENS tab and, of course, the BUY FROM tab. There is a wealth of good information under those tabs.
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 1 JUN 09 by Chris
new dawn is the first patented horticulture in the u.s. it was found as a sport of"Dr VanFleet" in a Connecticut nursery inthe earlier part of the century,i believe. I do not know where in ct. but i have planted it, calling this grandlady, the "Connecticut Rose."
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 10 JAN 19 by Cissy
Biltmore House has rose gardens now. I have the impression that these always existed even if in a smaller form. You could check this.
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Discussion id : 499
most recent 22 NOV 18 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 25 FEB 04 by Unregistered Guest
Is this rose prone to suckering or growing out of bounds? I want a large climber for my fence to spread out, but I don't want it to get out of control. Thanks for your help!
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 13 MAY 03 by Unregistered Guest
I hve New Dawn, and haven't had any problems with suckering, at all. It is probably about 6 yrs. old or so - I'm not sure. I have it growing on an arbor, and last year it was gorgeous! Paula
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 25 FEB 04 by floweringshrubfarm.com
In time your 'New Dawn' may get larger and spread out depending on local conditions, light, water and fertilizer. Wichuranna Roses are often ramblers. Dr W Van Fleet that New Dawn is a sport of has been grown to 30 feet tall and 45 feet wide. Though I think that was in South Africa. New Dawn has been seen 8 feet tall and 25 feet wide in Albany, NY zone 5.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 22 NOV 18 by MikeInBatonRouge
Growing out of bounds? Yes, though it can be pruned. As for suckering, that is about the rootstock, and New Dawn is so vigorous on its own, there is no reason to ever need to plant it grafted onto a rootstock. If yours is, try burying the bud union slightly under the soil level; in a couple years' time the plant will hopefully have sent down native New Dawn roots from those buried lower canes.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 22 NOV 18 by Andrew from Dolton
Hello Mike,

Just out of interest how well does your 'New Dawn' have a second flush?

Regards, Andrew.
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Discussion id : 93-292
most recent 18 JUL 17 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 9 JUN 16 by Paz
This rose is a survivor. On a family rural property, I had this rose growing on its own roots in a garden bed with plenty of other roses growing (all the other roses where grafted onto Dr. Huey) the garden bed was watered using a local dam that was being filled from time to time with bore water. The bore increased the concentration of salt (unbeknown to us at the time was the salinity of the bore water) in the dam and hence that water was used on the rose bed, which killed all the roses over the summer. Symptoms were burning of the leaves around the outside, die back and other typical symptoms of salt poisoning.... Indica Major, gigantic climber in this bed died very rapidly as well as all the HT and F.B's gone. There was some other survivors, Queen Elizabeth, 3 bushes (also grown on own roots) and some other Scarlet Carpet roses..these roses had some burning to the leaves, but continued to flower. The soil was intense heavy clay. I am going to explore using QEII, New Dawn and Scarlet Carpet rose as potential root stocks for salty/heavy clay soils... In the mean time, the bed has had all dead roses pulled out, dug up and allowed to be flushed with rain water to leach out the salts before replanting in a few years time.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 18 JUL 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Thank you for a fantastic description of salt-damage in heavy clay.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 18 JUL 17 by Lavenderlace
We give these no water and they are still incredibly vigorous. There should be a warning about the potential size in warm climates though!
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