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Discussion id : 48-861
most recent 28 APR 17 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 19 OCT 10 by Penelope
I have room for one more pink rose bush and I'm having trouble deciding between Frederic Mistral and Memorial Day. I live in Texas. If anyone can offer any advice I'd appreciate it. :-)
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Reply #1 of 6 posted 5 FEB 11 by A-L in New Orleans
I'd love to know the answer to this. I'm in New Orleans, and don't spray. Might this one work for me?
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Reply #2 of 6 posted 21 JAN 16 by npierce
I grow both in Dallas. Both are a beautiful pink, have loads of fragrance, grow to be big bushes. Frederic Mistral's blooms have better form for me and it is one of the last to start blooming in the spring here. If I had to pick one over the other, I would grow Frederic Mistral; if for no other reason than it is more difficult to locate and I like to keep more difficult-to-find varieties in my garden.
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Reply #3 of 6 posted 15 SEP 16 by Lavenderlace
Which one did you decide on? I planted a lot of Memorial Days this year but wanted to go with Frederic also when available. Scent is a top trait for me so curious about which one does best in the heat!
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Reply #4 of 6 posted 28 APR 17 by StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5
Frederic Mistral did well in the heat for me. It was Prickles (Bailey) in CA who reported in forum that he had 2 Memorial Day, one in full-sun, one in partial shade. The one in partial shade had better color & more petals & better scent. Lavenderlace: I would love to learn from your assessment with many Memorial Day planted in different locations as to winter-survival & vigor. Thanks. Memorial Day is iffy for my zone 5a winter, and I would like to learn what help with its vigor & winter-survival.
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Reply #5 of 6 posted 28 APR 17 by Lavenderlace
I found MD to be a little hit or miss for me in my climate. I have them all over the place and all planted within a month or so of each other.

Before planting, they did not take the summer heat with delayed UPS trucks and many arrived DOA while plants of a different variety were fine.

After winter, none of them died completely, but I have some that are now only inches tall (after dying down to the ground) in the same line where some are three feet tall and stayed green the entire winter. But the ones that came out the worse are the ones that went into winter looking the worse, though everything else was the same.

The ones in clay really struggled to get started last year but this year I don't see a difference between the clay and the sandy soil ones. But the main thing that I learned was that MD (in my particular circumstances) does not like too much water and I had some planted by very thirsty Austins!

So if I would have known this starting out, perhaps the clay ones would have done better to begin with? If there's a heavy rain, MD looks unhappy and will get a bit of BS.

Mine are all planted in full sun or else getting a lot of sun, none that I would consider shaded. I have one in a pot that has just been sitting there for six months, not a lot of growth, so being brought in for the cold and having the water controlled seems to still result in a slow starting plant.

That being said, I have at least a dozen that have huge blooms and stayed green all winter. If these were the only ones that I owned, I would say that they are fabulous! But then I have a lot that are incredibly behind so maybe they are just slow starters?

For winter protection, they had a manure and shavings mix banked around them.
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Reply #6 of 6 posted 28 APR 17 by StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5
Thank you !! it's good to know that Memorial Day require less water than Austin roses. Definitely will grab that one if I see in local store.
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Discussion id : 63-935
most recent 29 MAY 16 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 30 APR 12 by SteveinAus
If someone came to me and said they wanted advice on which rose to buy if they only had room for one, this would possibly be the one I would recommend (as long as they had plenty of room and they like the colour).
Just don't try to grow it in a pot though, as it won't grow anywhere near as well as it will in the ground, unless the pot is seriously huge and you water it about twice a day in the warmer weather. These produce lots of big blooms and they seem to need a lot of water.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 17 AUG 15 by jmys
I took your advice and bought Frederic in November. OMG is this a beautiful rose. Thank you.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 29 MAY 16 by StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5
Agree that Frederic Mistral needs lots of water. After a few years, mine as own-root died through a dry winter. When I dug it up, its own-root was huge, but got dried out.
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Discussion id : 75-126
most recent 15 NOV 13 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 15 NOV 13 by Renato Emma
Syn.'Meitebros', 'The Children's Rose'
Rosa cespuglio Ibrido Tea/Romantica, a portamento vigoroso/eretto, ben ramificato e senza spine o quasi. Fogliame sm/lucido, grande, verde scuro. Fiori grandi, a gambo lungo, rosa veneziano, singoli. Fragranza intensa, di agrumi. Rustica e resistente malattie. Rifiorente. Adatta x fiori da espozione e taglio. H.100cm L.60cm.
(ROSACEAE) (Alain Meilland, Meilland International, Francia, 1994)
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Discussion id : 59-967
most recent 12 DEC 11 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 12 DEC 11 by StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5
In my alkaline clay, own-root Frederic Mistral is hardy and vigorous in zone 5a. The size is 3' x 5', very wide, needs room. Paul in CT, zone 5b, informed me that Frederic Mistral needs protection during spring frosts - this explains why Fred flowers so late. Fred needs full-sun and plenty of water for best flowering.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 12 DEC 11 by HMF Admin
5a ! Interesting, thanks for sharing.
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