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'Bloomfield Abundance' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 83-740
most recent 8 APR 15 SHOW ALL
Initial post 17 MAR 15 by Michael Garhart
Everything about this rose is confusing.
Reply #1 of 6 posted 17 MAR 15 by Patricia Routley
Michael - can we help lessen the confusion?
Give us simple questions and we will try to give you simple answers.
Reply #2 of 6 posted 17 MAR 15 by Michael Garhart
Its nothing HMF can fix, I think. The confusion is that its not quite concrete what this rose is. Kim's new pics seem to be the closest yet, from my little knowledge of this rose. Other pics and descriptions depict a Cecile Brunner wannabe.

The older texts do say its a larger rose, like a HT, but "similar to Cecile Brunner," which is really contradictory, if you see what I mean. Its like saying 'Beauty Secret' is like 'Olympiad'???? I dont know, lol.
Reply #3 of 6 posted 8 APR 15 by Tearose
The pictures by Kim are of the rose found a few years ago by Judy Dean in a Sierra foothills garden. Fred Boutin had seen a photograph of the real one (B&W) in an album owned by descendants of the breeder, and made the connection. All other photographs are of Spray Cecile Brunner.
Reply #4 of 6 posted 8 APR 15 by Michael Garhart
That makes sense. So how did Spray Cecile Brunner become associated?
Reply #5 of 6 posted 8 APR 15 by Tearose
If you look at the references, the similarity in appearance of the flowers to Cecile Brunner was noted right away. So I think, when the real Bloomfield Abundance ceased to be available, people started mistaking the Spray Cecile Brunner for it, ignoring the differences in the description, such as it being a hybrid tea, not a polyantha.
Reply #6 of 6 posted 8 APR 15 by Michael Garhart
I see. I wonder if it was more of a way to capitalize on successes. Lineages, for example, were more suspect between the late 1800s through the mid 1900s, as a way to capitalize on well-known parents. I guess we will never know.

When I see the real plant picture here, it reminds me of Brownell's work. Almost a precursor of that time in hybrid teas.
Discussion id : 38-402
most recent 5 AUG 09 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 5 AUG 09 by Sandie Maclean
American Rose Annual 1920
Article-The Hardy Everblooming Climber
By George C. Thomas Jr.
Paragraph from page 36

The third of these 1914 crosses is also only a semi-climber,
but found favor in the eyes of Messrs. Bobbink & Atkins,
Rutherford, N. J., and of A. N. Pierson, Inc., of Cromwell,
Conn. It has been named "Bloomfield Abundance," and, as
the illustration shows, is a most prolific bloomer. This rose has
grown to five feet when only thinned in pruning. It blooms con-
stantly from June to heavy frost, and is hardy. The illustration
shows a plant one year after setting out; the color of the flowers
is salmon-pink.

(I have uploaded the photo of Bloomfield Abundance that accompanied the article.)
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