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Discussion id : 96-197
most recent 10 APR 17 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 5 DEC 16 by Andrew from Dolton
29/11/16 -4 degrees, 30/11/16 -4 degrees, 1/12/16 -6 degrees, 2/12/16 -7 degrees but still 'Old Blush' goes on and on.
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Reply #1 of 6 posted 9 APR 17 by thebig-bear
What aspect is this growing in please, and is it growing against a wall, as it appears?
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Reply #2 of 6 posted 9 APR 17 by Andrew from Dolton
It is growing in a pot against a south facing wall. My garden is at the bottom of a valley and suffers cold nights all year round, I think it would struggle in the open although the closely related 'Pompom de Paris' does quite well away from the house climbing through a Deutzia.
I must say that I can only smell the scent in the afternoon on a warm day but my sense of smell is not over keen. I can only detect the mildest fragrance from Rosa arvensis despite the description saying that it has a strong fragrance.
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Reply #3 of 6 posted 9 APR 17 by thebig-bear
Thanks for the info - I have an Old Blush growing happily in a sheltered but shaded spot, and I have another new one which I want to position differently to see what it is like when grown in a sunny spot. May well give a south facing wall a go! How big is yours? (if you pardon the expression!) Does the pot help keep the size in check do you think?
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Reply #4 of 6 posted 9 APR 17 by Andrew from Dolton
It is just over 1 metre high and about the same wide but it was only planted last year and already has put on 30 cm of growth this season. At a garden I once worked at they grew 'Climbing Old Blush' on a west facing wall. It grew three metres wide and two metres tall and was in flower constantly from May to November. The flowers nodding forwards in a very charming way.
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Reply #5 of 6 posted 10 APR 17 by thebig-bear
Many thanks once again, that sounds very promising.
Cheers,
Steve
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Reply #6 of 6 posted 10 APR 17 by Andrew from Dolton
Well, it performed very well last year, so that inspired me to try 'Sanguinea', 'Hume's Blush', 'Slater's Crimson', 'Viridiflora' and 'Archduc Charles'. If you wanted to grow a miniature version of 'Old Blush' then chinensis 'Minima' is very easy and flowers in only three months from seed.
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Discussion id : 98-247
most recent 29 MAR 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 29 MAR 17 by Give me caffeine
Updated information:

Hmm. I once read a description that said "a little twiggy and unimpressive at times".

I now know what that means.

What it means is that the damned thing will randomly defoliate sometimes, even though it's not diseased. The result is definitely twiggy and unimpressive.

I'm waiting to see how well it bounces back. It had better bounce if it wants to survive.

Update: It's July now, and bouncing has happened.
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Discussion id : 94-624
most recent 29 AUG 16 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 29 AUG 16 by Margaret Furness
Evergreen in zone 9b.
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Discussion id : 94-392
most recent 17 AUG 16 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 13 AUG 16 by Give me caffeine
I can see this rather unassuming rose could well end up being one of my favourites. I originally ordered it because it some sources said it was almost thornless, and because it had historical value.

The actual bush turns out to not be anywhere near thornless, at least so far. I'd call it lightly to moderately armed (the same applies to its sport, Archduke Charles). However, overall it's a far more appealing shrub than I'd banked on.

The flowers in photos #286361 and 286362, which I said were "looking distinctly ratty" a few hours later, are still hanging on the bush quite nicely and have been joined by others. On reflection, they're more "informal" than "ratty". Once you get used to the somewhat floppy look (nothing like a modern HT) they're still very enjoyable.

They do lose their scent quickly though. Fully opened, they have very little scent. There's also very little early in the morning. I've found that the best scent seems to be in the afternoon, when they have a bit of warmth to bring it out, and when the blooms are just opening. In those circumstances the scent is stronger and is very pleasant, with more rose to it on top of the basic fruity.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 17 AUG 16 by Andrew from Dolton
For me the fragrance is strongest at about 5 o'clock on a sunny day as afternoon tempers toward evening time. It has a scent a little like a deciduous Azalea, very distinct from European roses.
I grow my plant in a large pot against a warm wall it is just starting its third flush of the season, out-flowering many modern hybrids and doing very well in my cold wet climate. A pity it is not more often grown or seen for sale.
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