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'Zéphirine Drouhin' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 124-014
most recent 23 NOV 20 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 23 NOV 20 by happymaryellen
Would this rose fair in a pot as a climber? I have one location for a pot gets HOT sun in summer, and another location in soil. Also warm but a but shadier. Sounds likenit like to be moist? But then gets mildew? Any relation? And I am in northern calif by the bay zone 9
Reply #1 of 1 posted 23 NOV 20 by Jay-Jay
Only when it could root through the bottom of the pot in soil.
Member Ilgiardinodeipigri did so with this rose above a crack in the asphalt or concrete... and it thrives.
Please take a look at his photos of that Zéphirine Drouhin.
Discussion id : 115-731
most recent 2 NOV 20 SHOW ALL
Initial post 15 MAR 19 by HubertG
In which region was this rose found? What is its scent like? Its colourful 'decorative' style makes me think a little of Alister Clark roses.
Reply #1 of 3 posted 15 MAR 19 by Patricia Routley
Peta Zadow has been collecting roses from old properties around her Kojonup town in the Western Australian inland wheatbelt area. At this stage I don’t know whether it is a bush or climber, but judging on how the other roses she brought me are leaping out of their pots, I am guessing this one will be a bush. It reminded me too of an Alister Clark type of rose. Something like ‘Cicely O’Rorke’ or ‘Madge Taylor’ sort of thing. I am afraid I do not have a very good nose HubertG.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 2 NOV 20 by HubertG
On the off-chance that this were in fact to be an Alister Clark rose, I wonder if 'Doris Osborne' might be a possibility. The colour is right, the buds are long and some of the photos do seem to show a "crepey" texture as mentioned in an early reference.
Reply #3 of 3 posted 2 NOV 20 by Patricia Routley
A good thought HubertG. I see the crepiness in a couple of photos. However the colour, to me, is more like cerise. I think “rich flame red” 1930, “highly coloured carmine rose” 1937, “very rich carmine pink” 1938 and even “ruby cerise” 1979 might be too dark a colour to match the foundling. But I do thank you for your thoughts. I need to do another petal count this season and double check that the foundling is thornless. I have added a few more photos. I will try to take another photo of the bud with a ruler in the background because to me the buds of “Davies Sleep Out Rose” are not long.
Discussion id : 113-489
most recent 11 OCT 18 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 11 OCT 18 by Unregistered Guest
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Discussion id : 108-678
most recent 21 FEB 18 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 21 FEB 18 by mamabotanica
A rose at my mamas house hadn't been pruned in forever. I got in there and found a tag that identifies it as this rose. Also saw that it had been planted in a decomposed wooden box wrapped with a plastic tub mat. I tore that away and tried to bury the roots as best I could. Now I fear perhaps I should have been more tender? How hardy is this one? We are in zone 10 and this rose was well established when the house was bought 8 years ago.
Reply #1 of 8 posted 21 FEB 18 by Give me caffeine
How happy does it look? If the roots got damaged when you messed with them, or if being stuck inside the box means it got badly root-bound, it may need a bit of TLC for a while. The usual thing with any shrub is to prune it back a bit if you have to lose some of the rootball when transplanting, and to give it extra water for a while.

It's a bit late to worry about being more tender. I'd just apply common sense (along with food and water) and see how it goes.

Oh and in Zone 10 and with it probably being spring where you are, I'd think about some mulch for summer. Roses love lucerne mulch. I think you call it alfalfa over there.
Reply #2 of 8 posted 21 FEB 18 by mamabotanica
Thanks much! Will focus on water (praying for rain here!) and deep mulch as we move into the summer. I hope it recovers as it is a lovely rose when it does it's one big show.
Reply #3 of 8 posted 21 FEB 18 by Andrew from Dolton
It's a rose that likes cool moist roots.
Reply #4 of 8 posted 21 FEB 18 by Give me caffeine
It should do a second show in autumn if it's happy (and if it's deadheaded so autumn energy doesn't go into making hips from the summer blooms). I've seen a Zephy flowering in autumn before.
Reply #5 of 8 posted 21 FEB 18 by Jay-Jay
One big show? This rose is almost never without a flower and has several flushes during the season...
Or is the one big show due to the available amount of water at Your place?
Reply #6 of 8 posted 21 FEB 18 by Andrew from Dolton
I've picked flowers in November and it was one of the first roses to flower too. It grows well in a cool damp climate.
Reply #7 of 8 posted 21 FEB 18 by Margaret Furness
I grow its sport, Kathleen Harrop, on its own roots, in zone 9b. It strikes readily from cuttings, so I'd suggest as a backup, you start some cuttings going.
Well-established plants in my clay soil, with mulch, get little or no supplementary watering; I wouldn't get away with that on sandy soil. We do get occasional summer rain. KH flowers most of the time.
Reply #8 of 8 posted 21 FEB 18 by Give me caffeine
I remember reading that one person (in Vermont I think*) had quite different results growing ZD and KH. He found KH was much more resistant to disease.

Which might sound odd, but then sports are sports because of mutations, and it's quite possible that mutations will also affect things other than colour.

*Found it. South Carolina. See:
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