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"The Portland from Glendora" rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 80-776
most recent 28 SEP 14 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 28 SEP 14 by CybeRose
1913 Biltmore Rose Catalog
Joasine Hanet
An odd-shaped Rose of peculiar color, cultivated by enthusiasts because of its eccentricities. The flowers are of medium size and strangely formed, with the appearance of having been quartered. In color they are a deep rose, tinged with violet--a shading as distinctive as is the shape of the blossom. The fragrance is strong. The plant is of luxuriant growth, with long shoots, and thrives well in temperate climates. A few plants of the Joasine Hanet will add interest and distinction to gardens of ample extent.
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Discussion id : 75-409
most recent 5 DEC 13 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 4 DEC 13 by Ozoldroser
'Joasine Hanet' is my most favourite rose for its intoxicating perfume and its flowering season from late spring to late autumn. The button-eye and form of this rose is exquisite.
A phone call today from an enquirer who had just visited the Tanunda Visitor Centre (heart of the Barossa Valley in South Australia) where it is growing in their garden as a rose in keeping with the age of the old building, "Please can you tell me the name of this rose and where I can buy it as it is perfuming the whole courtyard." As this visitor is from Tasmania where the import requirements (even from the mainland) are strict we cannot send her a rooted cutting. I expect to hear from her again in her quest for this rose - plus I suggested she might like to also become a member of Heritage Roses in Australia!
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 5 DEC 13 by billy teabag
You do very good work Pat Toolan!
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Discussion id : 72-588
most recent 25 JUN 13 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 25 JUN 13 by My Lady Godolphin
I just put an own root Joasine Hanet in the ground about 6 weeks ago that I got from RoseFire. A really healthy looking specimen. Well, my first blossom greeted me this morning. Love it!

April 2014 update: Well, Joasine made it through a challenging winter in zone 5 Vermont with hardly any die-back! Also, wanted to add that from the point that I planted it last Spring until last Fall shut it down, it quadrupled in size.
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Discussion id : 47-364
most recent 9 AUG 10 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 8 AUG 10 by Kathy Strong
I'm looking to identify this rose. I think it may be Portland from Glendora -- can anyone look at these photos and confirm that or tell me how Portland from Glendora is different from this rose? Or suggest other roses it may be? I got this rose from Nor'East during their closing sale about a year ago, tagged The Dahlia Rose, which it is not. It is a vigorous grower, the blooms at full open are between 2 and 2.5 inches across and it is sweetly fragrant. Click on the pictures to enlarge them. Thanks.
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 8 AUG 10 by Cass
The shape of the receptacle is right for "Glendora," i.e. it is small and narrow, but the rest of the characters don't match. I don't think it's "Glendora."
Here's what's different.
1. "Glendora" blooms in clusters of up to 7 buds. Solitary blooms are uncommon.
2. The foliage on my plants is more rugose and coarser, without rounded points, with lots of 7-leaflet leaves.
3. "Glendora" is famous for producing many (but not all) quartered blooms that reveal a pip in the middle. The quartering is distinct, with the petals lined up and stacked on top of one another.
4. Almost all the sepals have little leafy appendages.
5. The flowering laterals have lots of longer, very sharp, straighter falcate prickles within 2 leaves below the blooms.
6. The armature on the canes basal canes consists of thin, tan, sickle-shaped, slightly down-turned prickles.
7. No where on "Glendora" do I find any wood like that which appears on your shot of the stipule.

Here's an old, faded shot showing the clusters of blooms, the shape of the bloom, the coarse foliage, and the appendages on the buds.
http://www.rosefog.us/imagesAtoI/Glendora.jpg
http://www.rosefog.us/imagesAtoI/GlendoraSpringFoliage.jpg

I grow Rose du Roi (supposedly the true one, a reversion from the striped sport Panachée de Lyon), and your rose is not it, either, altho it's close. Rose du Roi has receptacles that are covered with glands. This enormous file was shot to demonstrate macro mode on a camera, so I apologize it's so large. It does show a bud of Rose du Roi.
http://www.rosefog.us/TemporaryImages/CanonG10.jpg
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 8 AUG 10 by Kathy Strong
Okay Cass. Thanks. I guess it's back to the drawing board on that one. Anyone got any ideas who this rose is?
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 8 AUG 10 by Cass
Just guesses:
What Lowe sold as General Cavaignac
"Pickerings Four Seasons Rose"
What's sold as Rembrandt
Indigo
Rose du Roi of commerce
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 9 AUG 10 by Kathy Strong
Thanks, Cass.

I don't have access to any of these. If anyone has any of the plants on Cass's list, a comparison with the above photo set would be appreciated here. I assume this is a fairly common variety, as it came from Nor'East, who is not known as a propagator of OGR's. But I'd really like to know what this rose is. I like it alot.
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 9 AUG 10 by Patricia Routley
I like your rose a lot too. I have been peering at your very clear pictures as I have a similar foundling called “Balingup Lane” (syn: “Wilson St. Nannup”). I can see lots of similarities between the two – the flower, the stipule, the green canes and the basal thorns. I am unsure about the leaves. However, the hip differences between our two roses convinces me we have two different roses. However, I have looked at Cass’ suggestions for my rose:
What Lowe sold as General Cavaignac – the leaves are too rounded
"Pickerings Four Seasons Rose" – too pale pink
What's sold as Rembrandt - pix of the Belgium Rembrandt is similar
Indigo - too blue and too many petals.
Rose du Roi of commerce. Close. Possibly need research, but “of commerce” in USA, just how?

Because there are similarities between our two roses, you might like to have a look at “Balingup Lane” (syn: “Wilson St., Nannup”) as I have noted some discarded possibilities for my rose at the bottom of the HelpMeFind page and they may help you.
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