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'Oklahoma' rose Reviews & Comments
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In the description for this rose is written: "USDA zone 7b through 10b."
But also: "Does not do well in warmer climates."
Which climates are warmer than 10b? Or why is there a discrepancy between the two quotes? Or do I not understand it well?
...Oops, In the mean time I looked further in the comments and
-Discussion id : 60-437 most recent 1 JAN 12- shined some light on my riddle.
But still in the description the two quotes seem to conflict for a superficial reader.
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I had the same confusion!
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It obviously does do well in warmer climates, so we have removed that misleading statement. Thanks for pointing this out Jay-Jay
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#3 of 3 posted
9 OCT 16 by
 Jay-Jay
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You're welcome. And one, who wants some more info about this rose, can read the comments or consult the ratings.
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My mother planted this rose in the late 1960s early 1970s My brother still lives in the family home and Oklahoma is still going strong after at least 45+ years. When I visited him in December last year I took a cutting and brought it back with me. It's progressing very nicely and I'm looking forward to having a cutting from a rose my mother planted all that time ago in my own garden. Here's a photo I took of one of the roses on her bush last December -
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Simply put, find the right spot In the garden and you will not believe this vigorous, tall, stunning gorgeous red rose. It takes your breath away when in full flush. Many of the blooms are single stemmed and have enormous, I mean enormous blooms. Often many with blackened petal tips that just set it aside from any other red. I had to move it three different times to get it to grow like this, it now faces southwest, with partial morning shade. I feel it needs hot afternoon sun. This is a rooting plant, after only being a stick last fall to now 4 feet tall with 7 blooms on it, after surviving three frost, and a tornadic hail storm. It's a winner , if you like red and very tall , Oklahoma should be your pick.
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It's an interesting specimen rose....great BIG buds, strong sweet scent, high centered form. Lots of personality. I found it to be fair in hardiness and disease resistance. Beauty being in the eye of the beholder, I think the smokey purplish-red color to be kind of somber. Would go well in a funeral home.
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#1 of 3 posted
12 JAN 13 by
goncmg
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Love the post because Oklahoma does have personality and yes, it sure is a somber/old school sort of red. Grew it for years in Northern California and just tonight ordered it from Regan and looking forward to being reunited. There is just nothing truly LIKE it----Crimson Glory is similar (or vice versa) in the bloom, but CG is looser and floppier and fades and far more purple. Ink Spots CAN be almost as dark and is a much clearer, truer red beneath it all but the bloom is so small and there is no fragrance and the plant and bloom just lack a lustiness that Oklahoma has. And the same to the siblings, Mr. Lincoln and Papa Meilland: on paper they both are superior. Lincoln is by FAR the most strong, and the color is similar to Oklahoma.....but again, no lustiness, no joy in the bloom. Meilland has the best shape but......Oklahoma can be raggedy in growth, it may bot win shows, yes it does have deep inside that darn white mark that goes all the way back to Gloire des Rosomaines...........but it is here 50 years later despite many odds, despite the fact that Olympiad and Kentucky Derby---both great roses and hallmark reds--- are no longer really available.............testimony that most people want a red rose to smell, many people remain intrigued at just how close to black this one can get, and that rose growers respond to PERSONALITY............
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When I started seriously growing roses in the 80s Los Angeles was all about Olympiad for the next 15 years. The florist perfect Crimson unscented roses were everywhere here, definitely the "it red". Then (as you mentioned) it became scarce in the last ten years. Now that roses seem to be out of fashion, many of the best rose nurseries in LA have closed and Olympiad is back in stock at many of the remaining nurseries this spring.
Oklahoma is unsupassed for its perfect big hybrid perpetual type HT ultra fragrant deluxe dark red bloom. I like the blueing that seems to bother everybody else. The vigor of the bush and remonancy usually seem to be lacking though. I have seen a few rare exceptions (unfortunately not mine.) I am now trying Climbing Oklahoma now from a rooted "Vintage Roses" cutting. I refuse to give up on this mythic rose.
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3 MAY 13 by
Kebun
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Personally, I found that blackish-dark red colouring to be striking despite the somberness. It certainly makes one hell of a 'statement' surrounded by the other red roses in the garden and gives the garden that touch of 'exotic' which not even Mr Lincoln can provide
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