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most recent 23 OCT 16 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 23 FEB 16 by kysusan
ARS 9.2
Reply #1 of 8 posted 24 FEB 16 by Give me caffeine
I've seen a lot of these ARS numbers being thrown around recently. Exactly what do they mean?
Reply #2 of 8 posted 25 FEB 16 by styrax
10 is a perfect score, so when the ARS rated this rose, they believed it darn close to the ideal rose.
Reply #3 of 8 posted 25 FEB 16 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
For exhibition purposes...Only.
Reply #4 of 8 posted 25 FEB 16 by Give me caffeine
Ah, so not necessarily relevant to people who want good, trouble-free, garden shrubs.
Reply #5 of 8 posted 25 FEB 16 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Reply #6 of 8 posted 22 OCT 16 by kysusan
Oh gosh, I hate to disagree with Mr. Rippetoe! But . . . .

The ARS 2017 Handbook for Selecting Roses says these ratings are "not only the national garden performance rating, but also data on classification, color, number of petals and date of registration or introduction. Every rose in commerce that has a current garden performance rating, easily the majority of the varieties in this listing, has been included. In addition, roses that did not earn ratings but that are carried by a number of nurseries are included. Finally, new introductions that have not yet had an opportunity to earn a rating are shown." (In each case, the ARS printed the word GARDEN in bold.). ARS members are encouraged to download a Roses in Review each year asking for garden input first, in many categories. There's an optional short questionnaire at the bottom for exhibition input. They stress that part is optional.

I use the ARS rating second to the comments on Help Me Find when purchasing new roses. It can be a big investment so all the available information guides me.

Rob, I follow your rose breeding efforts, along with others, and appreciate how much you all share on the topic. Such fascinating plants!
Reply #7 of 8 posted 22 OCT 16 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
These comments go back several years.

I'm sure ARS has improved it's ratings systems by now.

Heaven knows I griped about it and spent enough time filling out surveys as to how they might improve the system.

If they have improved the system I applaud the effort.
Reply #8 of 8 posted 23 OCT 16 by kysusan
Now if only ARS would have more categories for the modern reproduction roses aka Romanticas, Austins, etc.. it's frustrating to go to a show with two dozen roses and hardly any place to enter them, but the Holy Hybrid Tea is everywhere.

Solomon in all his glory was not clothed as one of these. The ARS doesn't seem to agree.
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