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'Lady Banks Yellow' rose Reviews & Comments
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Is Rosa Banksia Lutea evergreen in a climate that goes as low as 20degrees F to 35F in winter? This would be in Umbria and I'd like to use it around my gate to block the view. But if yes, would use ivy or a Laurel hedge instead. But would certainly prefer a rose.
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23 AUG 07 by
 Cass
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Hi, Michele,
Lady Banks should survive 20 degrees F. It is routinely recommended for USDA hardiness Zone 8, which has average low temperatures of 15 to 20 F in Zone 8B and as low as 10 to 15 in Zone 8A.
Locally, Lady Banks survives Zone 8B winters, which we have once every 10 years in my part of Zone 9a. This part of Northern California is the same latitude as Sicily.
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Dear Cass,
Thank you for replying.. I have never done this before, asked a question on (what? is this a blog?? A total computer illiterate you are dealing with here but I am so grateful that someone is out there and willing to answer a question!).... Anyway, yes, I think survival is assured since I bought this rose from Rose Barni which is maybe 100 miles from here and not too much further north, but what I am concerned with is the area surrounding the gate, which looks into my patio, where I would really like a bit of privacy. I am putting some big pots of cotoneasters directly in front of the gate and that should do there,but I have several meters on either side that look directly into the patio... and my front window, until I pull the drapes.. So I wanted something that would seriously block that space, which is to say, evergreen. I know that Lady Banks, when it gets on a bit in years will certainly form a hedge effect, but if it loses all it's leaves in winter...we are open to view. I guess that will not be true if enough years pass but I don't even know how long it would take to get that thick. In any case, the patio being on view is not exactly a disaster as the road that passes here is full of friendly neighbors, but just less than desireable. I guess in the end if it was not evergreen and, after some years pass, a tangle of Lady Banks is preferable to evergreen ivy which could cover parts of the house that I don't want covered.
So. Given all that, what is your opinion on whether or not it will lose its leaves in this type of winter?. I am from Los Angeles, so know absolutely zip about Winter. Thank God there is someone out there from Northern Califonia (where my cousins also live but. alas, are not gardners) who has cold experience.
Best, Michele
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26 AUG 07 by
Cass
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Hi, Michele,
This is a forum, not a blog. The world can read what we write and correct our errors.
If you can be patient, this first winter will tell you what will be evergreen and what will lose its leaves. Lady Banks will grow very large very quickly. In the wild, Lady Banks is an enormous rose grown on its own roots, up to 50 feet into trees. If you leave it unpruned, it will grow into a "haystack," meaning a large fountaining thicket that arches out at the edges.
I know little of Umbria other than what some friends who just bought near Deruta told me, which is there will be the occasional dusting of snow. Evergreen in roses means the rose prefers a climate mild enough that the cold will never force it to drop its leaves. Where it's warm, those leaves will drop but on the schedule preferred by the rose -- usually early in the spring. Lady Banks will survive your winters. I'm afraid, tho, that part of the time it will have no leaves.
There are other roses that will hold their leaves right through the winter. Rosa laevigata is absolutely evergreen up here, although it is viciously thorny. It is a barrier plant. No one will intrude. Eventually, you will need to prune it with hedge trimmer once a year after it blooms. It will form a 12 foot high evergreen hedge. You can see it here:
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pics.php?l=2.5335.1&nr=64147
If you cannot handle the prickles, then Jaune Desprez is another option. It is a very large climber and will eat your wall. It is quite evergreen here in Northern California's wine country.
Enjoy your roses and la dolce vida!
Cass
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Cass...
Again, thank you! I will look at the Rosa Laevigata, but since it's on either side of a gate if I got sloppy with the pruining it could be a bit uncomfortable. This gate is a pedestrian gate, not a big car gate and people will walk through.
I should probably wait and see how the Lady Banks I have near that spot does this winter, leaf wise. I guess it would not grow all that much more if I planted it in October when the gate will be, fingers crossed, finished, or in spring. I love the pale yellow. Juane Desperez, which I've never grown, is a bit more on the ocher side isn't it? I will look it up, too. Though It would be great if it would go up onto the house.. But I guess i would have to put in some kind of wires so it would have support. I have a Marechal Niel that is super vigorous, that lovely pale yellow and a killer beautiful rose but I have it near a warm wall as the 'book' says to do, and if I used one by the gate it would be more exposed to wind. Hmmm. Since all of these get so big I guess it wouldn't be very long at all until it really didn't matter if they were in leaf or not, visibility wise.
How are your friends liking Italy? I am supremely happy here, and live about maybe 50 minutes north of them. What a beautiful, peaceful place! Do you have any plans to visit them? If so, I would love to take you to lunch, or make one here at home.
Well, if you have anymore thougthts, I'd love to hear them, meanwhile, off to see the photos!
Best, Michele
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28 JAN 07 by
marjan
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does anybody know if it would be possible to use this rose as groundcover, i.e. would it root itself?
i would like to cover a VERY steep bank of about 10m wide and c 2m high and though about planting this rose at the top and let it go
i live in the south of france, mixed clay soil
marjan
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This reply is long after your question, I didn't see it before, sorry. It does well in clay soils. They've used this rose to landscape the highway coming into town on steep embankments. This rose doesn't have thorns, it won't root itself that I know of, but will easily cover 30 feet. It is a once bloomer and absolutely gorgeous for the month or so it is in bloom.
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31 MAR 07 by
marjan
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thanks for the info, i have meanwhile planted a trachelospermum Japonica and a Haliana , honeysuckle, to take care of the scent - and self rooting side of things and colour for the rest of the summer,.
The Banksia will start the season off nicely , the fact that it doesnt have thorns will make tidying up an easier job, difficult on such a steep bank anyway
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Oh nice, I didn't figure you'd be around to hear my reply. As I post this the rose is in bloom now here in the central valley of CA. I have a young rose that is 4 months old and it started blooming 2 weeks ago making it about 3/16/07. I grew this rose in the past and it is breath taking all in bloom. The foliage is very attractive making up for it's once blooming habit. It's a shame that it doesn't repeat but it's a magnificent rose when it is all in bloom with it's clusters of roses trailing down. Make no mistake though, one rose bush is going to be huge. It'll look very beautiful for you covering that much of your bank when it's all grown. Good luck and maybe one day you'll post a photo of it.
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1 APR 07 by
marjan
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that is a bit early isnt it? which zone are you in?
i figured out that i am in zone 8a, it would be great if it started flowering here as early as that.
i realize thats its going to be a beast but the bank is totally bare at the moment and with lots of soil erosion, especially during the terrific summerstorms here, so speed is of the essence.
i probl wont see your answer for a while as i am away tonight for a month
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Oh, sorry, I said where I was but not the zone, zone is a solid 9. It got warm here early so all the roses leafed out early and bloomed early. I don't think this is normal. I'm just back in this zone this year. I would have to think that it would normally do this in April here but not 100% sure.
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25 FEB 04 by
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I bought not really knowing what it was, only that I liked it. But it was mislabeled and without care instructions. Is this self-supporting or will it need to be tied to trellis? Currently in 1 gallon and closely tied to stake. Also 15-20 feet? One plant?
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Lady Banks Rose can be a very large plant. Because the canes are thin and flexable you will need to help it stay upright. The other alternataive is just to let it go and it will make a large mounding bush. If you are growing this rose in a warm climate 20 feet is not unreasable.
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25 FEB 04 by
Anonymous-797
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Anyone growing this rose in a zone 5 or colder climate? Do you mulch it in? How easy is it to grow?
I am growing Olympiad & Gruss an aachen in my garden,listed here as zone 7..........maybe that's because they are a hybrid tea rose and there is a difficulty level involved????? I've never seen anyone here in Coloado growing a Lady Banks rose,until now I've never seen one offered for sale........
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25 FEB 04 by
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I'm not in zone 5, but I don't believe Lady Banks would survive your winter. It's a very tender rose. Other than that, it is an extremely easy rose to grow. You might be able to grow it if you purchase one grown on it's own roots. Lady Banks does not mind severe pruning and if you mulch heavily in winter, an own root specimen may come back in spring, even if it dies back to the ground in winter. You could call someone like Antique Rose Emporium to ask about this possibility. Their website is www.weareroses.com
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