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'Souvenir de St. Anne's' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 98-241
most recent 29 MAR 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 29 MAR 17 by Give me caffeine
Bush is generally healthy, and looks good when it feels like making leaves.
However I'm finding it can be a bit short on foliage at times, which is annoying.
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Discussion id : 94-141
most recent 4 AUG 16 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 29 JUL 16 by Give me caffeine
I've noticed recently that this rose seems to be a real magnet for aphids. None of the other roses are getting aphids. The little mongrels are all partying on SdSA. The bush itself is strong and happy, so I'm not too worried.

I was inclined to grumble about this aphid magnetism a bit, but then I realised it's actually a useful feature. I don't have to bother checking the rest of the bushes. if there are aphids around I know where to find them, and I can wallop them all in one go.

(I don't yet know if this will continue to work, but it's working well so far)
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Reply #1 of 6 posted 29 JUL 16 by Patricia Routley
I recently found at my local tip (refuse site) a central column once used as a table stand. It is quite pretty and with a large terracotta saucer placed on top, it forms a superb movable bird bath for aphid-eating birdies who can then take a bath, eat some dinner, and then sing their little hearts out for you.
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Reply #2 of 6 posted 30 JUL 16 by Give me caffeine
Genius. :D Lotsa birdies around here. I keep seeing new ones I hadn't seen before. I'll encourage them to munch aphids.
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Reply #3 of 6 posted 31 JUL 16 by Margaret Furness
I'm told you can get parasitic wasps (against aphids) posted to you. But they don't sing.
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Reply #4 of 6 posted 31 JUL 16 by Give me caffeine
On the other hand, they don't crap on your roses and they won't fight with the rear view mirror on the ute (male blue wrens really are not very bright).

I've looked them up already. This is one source: http://ecoorganicgarden.com.au/product-category/backyard-buddies/

The lacewings at the top of the list are native to Australia, and apparently munch aphids like crazy. I'd thought about getting some but haven't got around to it yet.
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Reply #5 of 6 posted 4 AUG 16 by Margaret Furness
A rose that doesn't appeal to aphids is the Tea sold in Aus as Papillon, which is probably Beaute Inconstante. It gets huge.
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Reply #6 of 6 posted 4 AUG 16 by Give me caffeine
Oh good. I was looking for an excuse to get that one.

Edit: Anyway, aphids are now exploring the rest of the rose bed too. Adventurous little sods, they are.
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Discussion id : 84-640
most recent 8 JUN 16 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 2 MAY 15 by Give me caffeine
I've been swotting up on this one, and it seems that several people who grow it or are familiar with it think the scent is both stronger than the parent (SdlM), and better. They speculate that this is because scent is available from the stamens, due to the more open form (I don't know whether this is the case or not).

Some also claim this one is more vigorous than the parent in their locations.

See discussions on this link: http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/1710667/please-tell-me-about-souvenir-de-st-anne

Also, since the parent is almost completely thornless I assume the sport shares this useful trait. Perhaps a note should be added to the description.
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 2 MAY 15 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Not thornless. Mildews. Badly.
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 3 MAY 15 by Give me caffeine
Ok. Mildew isn't an issue in my climate. As long as it's ok for black spot it should do well here.

Pity about it not being thornless, but that's roses.
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 3 MAY 15 by Jane Z
it's prickles aren't 'agressive' as some can be, I never found the rose to be a milge magnet - it is lovely ...
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 3 MAY 15 by Give me caffeine
Yes it is particularly gorgeous, and resistant to black spot, which is why it's on my short list. I think it even looks better than the parent, although this is obviously a matter of personal preference. The fact that SdSA won't ball in wet weather is certainly an advantage here.
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 8 JUN 16 by Give me caffeine
Have just received one in the post. I'd agree that the thorns don't look "aggressive". They're generally fairly small, straight or slightly hooked, and spaced far enough apart that you can easily find some smooth cane to hold with a few fingers. I'd call them sparse-ish.
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Discussion id : 91-713
most recent 25 MAR 16 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 25 MAR 16 by timdufelmeier
Are there various short and tall versions of SdSA as with Cecile Brunner? I planted my own root band six years ago (in LA) with several other roses all of which are six foot giants except her. She blooms well and smells good but is stuck at 2-3 feet. HMF describes 5-7 feet.
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