Actually, in the Sequoia "language", both are correct. "Striped seedling # 33", gets contracted down to "33 Stripe" for ease of record keeping and labeling. When you have a couple of hundred stems to label, you shorten what can be shortened to save time and energy. Stripes have taken so long and have so illusive in their breeding, that when one which shows striping and, particularly shows itself suitable for breeding, it's given a code name which clearly shows its striping. The patent information would give what is needed for them to know what was involved in creating the rose. Their breeding records, from which the information here on Help Me Find has been gathered, gives more in-depth information. Sequoia has been very generous with this information, unlike so many other breeders. Paul Barden, Mel Hulse (from the San Jose Heritage Rose Garden) and I gathered and compiled this information to document the wonders which have sprung from "The Wizard of Visalia", Ralph Moore, as so little of the creative and insightful work he's accomplished over the past nearly 80 years of rose breeding was presented in one place. We hope that this can not only serve as a public record of his achievements and vision, but also as an inspiration to others who may wish to further what he's begun.